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I truly don't think either of these people should be even remotely trusted to be anywhere near the plans for "handling survival" | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLLUR2NnpKT0JTWmQyYklEMms2NWZRMFNFVHBlVXBtcWNiUGpKZ19nV1NhWlBzZko4RG5qWHhRRmRXMVFTeDkwZWs2TF9VaHdaZEQ4SjVQODZXM0xwUVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYkZCdUhBLUd5dElDd25rTFhReE8tY1pZR1B3Zlp5emVRMUY2WHhMMTNBSVJFdWxxWEJDNFE1blRHRmdjMDNnaDNjSmpYSHJTamJwZFpKTkctb19kN3hnVFQ3YXlCT2pNUU16eHRqdXpZcmVtdXJ4LTZiZ19EUVNlZXRUTTV1N1NSUC15aks4U3Y5UVI5aVFGN0d0VkQ4RlNzMkR3aUNnMGtWWGhaTlVkQkJsX2k1X3RWRUVJQXNITFJDZWJaMlA5anpiOVVjRW80SUNHRnFYME5jU2VnQT09 |
1. It's not about individuals. The actual engineers involved make a bigger difference than the rich guys in the news. And the engineering processes in place (and the organizational will within these companies to adhere to these processes) make a bigger difference than that.
2. Being a rich guy isn't a meritocracy. Luck plays a bigger role in who gets to be rich and who gets to be in charge of these companies than any talent or vision or decision making does. They're not geniuses. They're just privileged.
3. From what I understand about how these guys run their businesses, it's the people in the companies working under them who are basically responsible from keeping these doofuses from eating crayons. If they had more low-level say in what went on in their companies, it would be a detriment to the effort, not an asset.
4. Even they don't have the kind of money to make a viable mars colony happen - doing so would require considerable government resources and political will. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLY3pTNWFleW5NTHpUTGk3SEg1elM3dGlBdUlrMi1SQzV1YzRtMGJyel9OYTBBQnp2VTMzZDFSNW1KWk44dlRlbHRDWjFSb3FTM3ZhS01tOWU0MlczMkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYjhUdzVuQVRLSDBnQThUd2JuWkJlRXlIajV4bmVYQ3dhdEZEcFktNDVhRG9EaWI4NkpjbDM3QlU5dWhHeDNTN2ktNzZ5R2xCUnZ4VGdNWDlTWUNYeURxdFVQMXB0QzllOHNZSFVDM3BqMDVvZWh2QVk1SUxCWkJLT2dNOEF6SXJfaktoazRqMzBJSzRFd2pqUml5VWJVN0ZkSXNvSmh2d3VhbXJMRmRpUHJGUlVoR0xhM0xFeDdDV0lLNXVrdjNSMlhPbUdtMnR5UWVUSkFVOWt0T1BGZz09 |
Likely also nitrogen related compounds from air interaction. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdUEzS2hsUFk2T1pDYTlmRFE5bFQ4QkhwLXNlWmhRWU4zamVwZHVhWGhpM3R5aUlTZk9LZnJaa0swb09mWlRUeDNHY1RGSHJDZGxIRldPNzhiX0MyV1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZU16dk00SExaS0YyLXR0amVjWHBweFctVFBIbzdsMjJKU3Ywc1pVT1plMUt5ZUstRVZwb1Fpd1ZCWW9QTlV2Q0VtLUVHS0hhV1pIUFJUSUdDMTdKOGJhZkl6d1FsX2FDX2M0YVZ2SzFaZThYMlo1dVpIbmpfS3RsdWRoYVpiWmNKY2pDZXJ1U3Jxb1BwMWVnb1VZZGtyOWVteVFCM1VSaUVNa0lJRHZ4R3p4Uklqa3JoS3ZScVNlYW9KN1hfUTNL |
You’re missing the bit where the lack of atmosphere and magnetosphere results in radiation levels 50 times higher than on earth.
Also the bit where it’s impossible to go outside without specialised equipment making it about as much fun as spending the rest of your life on a submarine that never surfaces | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVU1aYzBBNlZPZ0xicnlNVktpdGVWZW5DdGYtYTY0cmNrT1F4cFFtMm8tV2NGcG0tb3J4Y1B5VExSYld6dUZUNHRIaWIyeXVSbXlOMmhNY01IY0dFQnZiTUZJOTBxOVoxZjdFWER2ZFQ4blk9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLX3lZNzlXdWVCVnRnU3BnWDJtSEtabHMwRnM2MnBhems5U1Y5WS1lakJtcVVsdmFmbG1admJuRXFwTUliTXNUOUJvQ1BoZWFza0YwRjJieno2WURnSkd0X3hhempmZ1NOU2ZNYVEzNWNoMC02OHVtSlBOTC1yN1Fxdmtuenk5dHhEZ0V3S0RZYXA3eXdPZ2pVVXpmeldYUnQteHc0a2hVY3phRkRvM3lUaFhWZ3dWdDAwczZhMjVPMkpOdVNmaXZrSDNJSkM1ZHI0eTlPOUtsUFRoMlg1Zz09 |
SpaceX at the very least, gave Republicans some sort of fall back justification for doing so. I mean, George W. Bush hated science, but he still raised NASA's budget consistently. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWVR1dnRydllVNERnbzFqSzZBM0hpdkY2NHFkdHRKRmNlX1ZadndRZlB0WDFYakZlUFVlTm5iNHpCSXRlU2I5VTBybHg2enRuZ1Q2a09GVmh6WmxKdEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdnpNQlpSeUMxWnU0UUJCUHdCSUNXY3dma2tHX25DcHNIa2pqT3JmXzFKdGREekdKRlJGd0pKRlRVY0VmN0ppZTV3bHNKN0hZX0lscXJuai1PNDE2eFBoaVJIYzlSRDdKQ1haaWFNR045cnFWV2tzazE5dEhVMnRFejdfaW50TUZLZHFEOExhbndkQXhwS3JGSkJPSmtOcGxoWlpkc2RFOExuNjRyQ19pazl5NU45dHhWQWphZ25zMjVYWVNQV1I3 |
You could invent two perfect humans to lead the colonization of Mars in 2025 and I would still argue that as a moral and scientific failure.
So Musk and Bezos? No. I wouldn't trust them to properly colonize my local Applebee's. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWC1WRk9JQ2J3YlExYkEyZVU2Q3F3Rm1teVJzOTFScGxkM3dhV0ZoOXo5dlJWa3JOdzVmVHhzd0VpN0lqWVpaQnlDZm1wMUZSMWppS0toWmlQQ2ZHNEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUElNXzR1VEJpOEJMTXNfeE9yakhydkpjQ3UzY1MzZkZuTnpOeHoyUk1OWHBQS3NWb2JWeGZOX2x3bFlBOWkzWEx4OGFEcF9RWDBfY1BDNWRPX1hCeExEajI3Z3ZGbnZ6NTdyNFhJMmZEeE4tYjFkZmhWcXA3bG9WRGtkMzJETGp1ZDh0ODNyaWFOa0U0X0MxeW5rNUZpenNXeE9wLVg0LThQc2RLTnF1VXFWOEZKVDRWdjFzd19oSVlVbmFWNW5pUUFpWldkZms5TDRKQkxtWV8zdHBLdz09 |
Oh shit I forgot about that lmao. What a pathetic loser… | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaVptOXVoLUR2eTdYRVFQOVRKZzhnVnJnMGwxUmZubndxeHdCN1N1cHh3aGZyNFhvWDByQkNwcXkyTER0M0tvMF9lVS1wUExrTGFzV2xaUXh0V25jSWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMUlmeXYteG5FNU9pV2xSelJ4VUpMbmVUTWpCMlY0Q0VOeFNoa212Z2I5QnpfbFczb3V6NXlBd1ZoNm5lcm0zMlFYMldtTHdtTEhCS0VtYTJvZ0Rlelpla3RZUE1Ca0ljT1k1Zm9pOUJ4dms4OWlKU042NHNhQ29hSXB2NmFtRlI2dG1iRTNMVUw0NnhHQXpNTkVaRVFFZkx0eE5XRTYtM1Z3RmttNS14anZaT25Db1hEUXFDYTVRaXRBQUx3b3Mz |
What are you missing? You’re missing the fact that neither one of these two men are special in any way besides the ridiculous amount of money they’ve stolen from those beneath them. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVzJUWnNoUlFmeFp4Sno5ejJTZDFJbnFMamthTXFyOFBzeGlXR0UtMjZhUWkxQU94c09DckVoNHZ5eGVjTUowRTFVLUFvVjB4Y2ViZWYyaFlqdm1WemZyM0lfY0V3RDd0Y1d0RjRsUzNQRUU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQ19OSno1SVFlSUNtc1lmYlVWNjh4QUVIcWtBZW1ZVVZibG92eDkwOHZqcXFXbGdQSVZYQTFCY3VOT1lDSFFnRUJaUEFfdHJlUF9UcDY3cVVzTXJMMU5WVS1zMnlKbzRYYlpXY3UzeW9SSWRSNk1xd0NIMEpuS1ZxNndOb2gwWmVnRWctb3JzQngyTld3T1JoeHA4NTBhOEhUZ0VZajlEazE0eHZHRzJINk5EYXF1TEd4dXBjX2Zfd3BoTFRTdTRld3NwQUZmZFo3dzczUmN3dVNudmtkdz09 |
Trump isn’t Bush. He doesn’t care, and this would have happened anyways. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOHFJWGF0NG5LcUN4QnJhZnJxRG9vUm1DRFZjSG9maFhoaE1Ub1JRbjJnc0NtcGd4akQwOUxhQlo0ZnFTanR4QWw2b3JNWnV0dWh3cXF1U3RibVNISHM3WlZqV1dQNTNJNEZiV0pxbzdCRU09 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUHk5YUFqYUs5a3A5dXdzbXRqVTRLYjBxNDRJMG8wS3M4eVExOXlxa2JVRzMxc0sxWWNkVmtkY0ROcXpOWTFLd2ZkMVpVRE5PekxtemNfSWlDT2NSdGJPN3lZS3IyYkdkbUF5cTNieF9UbFp1akduTnFuNzJnT2NRRHFnbGFsRi1QNk1wM0FYalpjTWlneW84TEQ0anlpV3RxVUdNLVhmS19ZZU9rTVFRWFNUY1pUSHBZeWloLXlyTjZOQ0dGdTVP |
Nevermind all of the money and other resources that are being funneled into narcissistic, deluded space projects that are making "Don't Look Up" the next comedy-turned-documentary.
Mars doesn't have a magnetic field, so it will never be able to be "terraformed," "geoformed," whatever Space Karen is calling it. It's probably why the atmosphere it did have gradually dissipated.
"No, no, no, he said he can solve that problem" that's because he's a dumbass who's caught in a quandry and like most is doubling down. His brain is so smoothed out from crushing ketamine that he probably believes his bullshit, but the Starship project can be argued to be a waste of investors' money since no existing propulsion technology will ever allow something that big to carry any meaningful payload to space and then land back on earth; that's why Musk is cheating the iterative design process and just went from a tiny one to giant fuckers that are exploding all over the place. "We're making progress" yeah he can milk that one for 10 more years and just sell off his shares at ideal times until he turns SpaceX into a bank/memecoin and claims with a straight, weird-ass face that the rockets were just one giant part of the puzzle and only incels and betas wouldn't understand that. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWll5Z2NIZGh2WjRXTmFMUUxIZzd0MmNhYi1XMjZwS3RlcGJSMEgzbVdFa0xrVjR3TDR4RVY3Q2xzdHBjU0xRTnRZbXRYSC1HV1U5cnE5N2FqQU1ydHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLX3VidzloOVVUcUpzWmRSRU5KUFk0anNQRktWbDNoWDh1Rm1WeC0xMVduV0dCdlVhNXFYV19yS21KWDV1M2k0d2g3M0pxMnlNVEdfVGRGWXVvWGt2eVlFeTdVMURsNTBpNklRRmlKWk1YdWREUkd0U0F4azBnU3c0eGFGZzB4TVl3Mnh5NEg4ODFUWnFIV1M1M25BbXQtQ3Ntd0tFWmZEMjhFWUZNYkFxNFhOREItWjRMTjVYVjZTcXVvR092djFRTUM4c2drbm9vWkJDZkNPU09sM2JnUT09 |
Not even necessarily. First term, Trump didn't cut NASA funding. He made that insane attempt to get astronauts to the moon by 2024 to boost his ego, but the difference this time is Elon whispering in his ear that the USA doesn't need NASA because it has SpaceX. As horrible as Trump is, he was never destined to cut NASA funding. SpaceX made that possible. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLc0lsRVhfTHNZOEtLUmw0S1RCR09raGRLY1VPNDZyUlRKNzRYVGRzTkE0am1YTkRzSS1WVU9fSExzd1BncXJ1N0xWbENCTkJaSjhpR3BCY3BVQ2h0dWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSVVvU213RV9iLVdyVnRjaE1MQnBqbDdLN2tzdjZlbmgyb3NvZHdRWWhmeXNhQUJCWTRYX0FDalZTQzUyWDFKdERJWnc0Z1dSV0w1X0ltY2ZCTzlRclQyZFRUMzh5bWdocDlXeFFyb2loOURCSkIzQ3NvODh3cTJvN0VQdU9qTlNmNzZWdG5WUUlXMHNnbmRxWkhyYXRKZ2hBM3BnYU1PR25LUTM1UXVxSTJIclJxX2M0WVZqTk15RUo4YktCUkhu |
The chief of engineering is literally playing Diablo during meetings, so... | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbzJuRFJEdHB2bk1vZFFVYThWajhPemk3Q01CUDNTemt1ekFGbzlIcXBKZGdRZVpGZ3FuZ2R3bXJvdkp0dGdSNldtbEdva2V4ekZqLXlkTnRqYzlwU3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQmNMQTZVRERURHJTUEZZN2RGbUNWQzF0REROcFZfTHhlNldHRkZkZnVfa2hsZ2I4a3dnWUtfcU5wRkQxN1dXOG1oXzQtSDVoVXl0aUJZZExHMnNqYU14ZUdHLU9IRUFDeVdiUlhuV0xpS05LUUdadFlaZjZyelFudi1oWFFta1JxM1VDdFZKNXF2Mk9EaUZhVGt2QUxPTWt3bmJjbTl4VjJwMXQ0NEdLR3k5Mk1MZjVkSGNZOGdPYVplbHFuNzgt |
Wow, you don't even know what happened to the COPV and then you just lump completely different failure modes that have nothing to do with each other together? The COPVs don't even have anything in common between Falcon and Starship.
Do you even know how purchase parts work? Do you think they personally certify every bolt?
I get you're only here to spread hate for the company and Musk, but at least do the smallest amount of research beforehand. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQ3hwWklsUGJDV0xkYnpCNFdIWm9YQVk5RmFFdDRJN0FVOUpCR1d3eDVmaXNRVDBRVmxJSDNXcUVMS2RtMC1mSldEZDZCVVV1ZFNaUWkwOWwwTS1DNmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYnBHWTJkb2hESzd0ODViaWpmN2VtTGEzYzFvSDNhMkJaMmZGNmIycmFlQVVvTjlGTjBOcDNyd1RpSHBPRWdQRjE3SGJmVUc3TGlRcWljQ3dtLU1NLWo2RlVhZDdYOEZjeTNsQVZWaVNmZm5VTVQ3aTh2bG91X1gteWxvdXpWbHRpcDdLd0RXaXBvYU8wckhiTGxXWHVPczcwV1dOM3FLM2dlNWhqVURLWElaQ1lramFRNDZodmExaEcwUVRYRWZT |
Checked their comments… pure sychophantry… it’s astonishing. I was going to make a joke about how blowing up rockets on the ground only means you learned THIS TIME how to stop THAT failure. They couldn’t even fix the cause of a problem between the previous 2 missions. I WAS going to joke about blowing up thousands of incredibly expensive rockets…. But that loser thinks he’ll be flying in a starship after 1000 failures?
If they were testing self driving cars and they kept driving into things and people and exploding, I’d probably not consider the car after a couple dozen failures… | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZXo3QmlGMXB4ankydktTWUNZU1FWRHUzczZQdjZqWWYzWEJZVlk4Vk9jZjI1UDFuREhXaHg1WUhwUEw3TmtRSlVMNEFVdjgwclE3N1d1SDVUZUV6S0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbjV2LWsya1phVTRFRlJZeVdWSkhyODlvR3p4cGtsazNQQ0lmdkJqOV9fazYtc01pTnhkU3VoVHdUZGlVeVpVOU1OS0xsMXVEQUk3SEtGWnJxalFYLXRuZEE2U3p6czVjYUFoUUhpbjJJSGptZ3lCZ1FlajNRckFBWGFYd3NIVnFDZFJncHVqS3hRWXJ3S2JJX01Vc0VkYUZTbDBnbVowcGRoNHJWa3dCTVZuT0lhQUdqZ1E3LWItMzlsdEJPTmhVdHd1M3ZOenNNX2hRRkdYY1JLajJuZz09 |
My daily summary from the [Starship Dev thread on Lemmy](https://sh.itjust.works/post/39220369?sort=New)
> Starbase activities (2025-06-19):
>
> - Jun 18th cryo delivery tally. ([ViX](https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1935626598977241330))
> - **Massey's:** Additional video speeds and angles of the S36 deflagration. ([Pike / NSF](https://bsky.app/profile/nasaspaceflight.com/post/3lrwyrucgzs25) slow motion, [LabPadre](https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1935599417819566421) frame-by-frame, [LabPadre](https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1935705635531735189) Rover 1, [ViX 1](https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1935616596812222841), [ViX 2](https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1935616599471296910), [ViX 3](https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1935626988766589061), [ViX 4](https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1935631585061040421), [tobEwobE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yEqgh0Kqi0) 4k and very close, [Starship Gazer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1oXWZ2Xcww))
> - "Preliminary data suggests that a nitrogen COPV in the payload bay failed below its proof pressure. If further investigation confirms that this is what happened, it is the first time ever for this design." ([Elon](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1935660973827952675))
> - An update [is posted](https://www.spacex.com/updates/#starship-static-fire-update) on the SpaceX website. Two key sentences: "Initial analysis indicates the potential failure of a pressurized tank known as a COPV, or composite overwrapped pressure vessel, containing gaseous nitrogen in Starship’s nosecone area, but the full data review is ongoing. There is no commonality between the COPVs used on Starship and SpaceX’s Falcon rockets."
> - Tory sends his regards. ([Tory](https://bsky.app/profile/torybruno.bsky.social/post/3lrxdqj7d5222))
> - Morning photos and video. ([CruiZe427](https://x.com/CruiZe427/status/1935720340916695041), [Pike](https://bsky.app/profile/nasaspaceflight.com/post/3lrxsvnnhhc2a) drone, [mcrs987 / RGV Aerial](https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1935801053712195754), [cmartin380](https://x.com/cmartin380/status/1935790717592649928), [clwphoto1](https://x.com/clwphoto1/status/1935681757577166904), [Planatus666 1](https://imgur.com/a/wiVv9QT), [Planatus666 2](https://imgur.com/x1RoQJF), [booster_10 / WAI 1](https://x.com/booster_10/status/1935786283667771533), [booster_10 / WAI 2](https://x.com/booster_10/status/1935786283667771533), [z_nexxx / WAI](https://x.com/z_nexxx/status/1935786678859288779))
> - Ground testing is not a licensed activity with the FAA, so they do not require a mishap investigation. ([Beil / FAA](https://x.com/BCCarCounters/status/1935656559037563280))
> - Ryan Hansen speculates as to whether it is worth it to repair Ship version 2 test infrastructure or skip to version 3. ([Hansen](https://x.com/RyanHansenSpace/status/1935743922380104121))
> - **Build site:** Hot staging adapter is removed from B16 and exits Megabay 1. ([LabPadre](https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1935769323777540289), [ViX](https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1935841309559837117))
> - **Launch site:** The vaporiser which was removed from the pump farm the previous day is replaced with a new cross-braced version. ([ViX](https://x.com/VickiCocks15/status/1935842446153597249))
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> I will be busy for the next couple of weeks. Updates will be infrequent, if any. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT0dZcVk2eVlyQm9IRGU2U2FxazlvZEMxanFCaUoxdTR0UUVET0d6VS15OUFyMUwwWFB2c016d2hOeTZHNnQ3U3BJMUxCNEZLR0Z1dzU2amhxTy11ZHpibUlWcUwySkhaZEo1WU9pT3ZhVHM9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSTdhSGdvYWZLNUhDTWtNRWFvdEhQY0l4Sk1ESlpxOGljRTI5d0NXU1VqeHoxaHpLeEg2djd4OW5qcU5JWDZNSnZzLW4tR2hCSXdkNEx1UjNkNlBnd3dRTWEwRlVRbHBXWW5ISnVlTzBCVjZidTQ5ZmhMTVhtcUROZ0tCQ0Mxem5aR1NrR3l6MjFybV9vM2MxQ29pV0ktb1ZaMEZ3RTZHSlZxMU4yLVU1UkJUS2lEamxoZ050OTcyUHRBdGZTT0pm |
I mean, it's a fine phrase... For software. Specifically, software that doesn't interact with or control hardware. So not this!
As a process controls engineer, "move fast, break things" makes my skin crawl as it would be DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to proper controls programming philosophy and would result in unsafe garbage, loss of revenue, and so on. I program and simulate and proof test over and over until I *know* it can't be fucked up.
And even then, you know there is an exception in there somewhere, just waiting to happen thanks to operator inputs.
I can't even imagine the balls or lack of brain power it will take to ride this thing with confidence that it won't blow you into a million pieces. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZmRGZTQ2QVpWdjRMazFLN0RfZVg5bjRhV19rSnN4RzdVTE1VOU5LaEgtMUREdDNRXzlvTHhYTnYxVndoSVJLZ1dEVkp4UzFUbzZUeHBQLXhMNmdzRlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdzNzS2ZnVWhTeTdEWkFZa1R3NjhKdlBXdGRVRHIyQTYxQ0VZcTltWGlhT3R5WllOM2VSb2xBUmJtdDhGTjFuelZPWTVTYkxxS1lwR1lqZkY5SVZDME13TjZsS0lqTVBLZ3daeGlxNFpodHBRbWFQaFFaTjR4WkdZUkUzakszQ2xYV0tmT09kT2k2WEptQlpWR19BUlllX050bjF0U1g3TTRnREpjR3FNUmhnWkFnU3lUUjJFbUpBNjZwNUJtV3lWM3d5ZlI5aWh1ZlB1TUpmSl9WV3J0Zz09 |
Honestly, I don’t give a damn.
At this point, the overall ridiculousness of both Elon and Bezos fatigue has risen to a level that makes me wish they would just “touch tips” and then f\*\*k off to a private island to live happily ever after and leave the rest of us alone! | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYjhzYVNkb2JEQVVUb2N1VHBMYzFQa1pvU2hpWVVNT2p3TEV5d1hGX0VfeGhxY29pMDJlb2w3TnVhNVZNam9EOWZzamo1S3M1QTVFNGpzZTF3TUZPMk5mbHBsQ0V4bUtIeE91bkt1S0FOV1k9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLV1UtWVNISU9wb3hWTm56azdySE1OWEFtd3lPQVRhUEhwc2NRenhJLTlrWWw0bjRsNFRhdy1mNFpJQ2I4a2pMM1kxZ1Qwd1VWVFpFLWJRTnVXdHNmYXVQN2VGTUstTjVQNHpPUzc4amZMdk5EUExSUC1JU3hxbWw4OHpPaDBaYnFvN09XWDJweHdza3o3UVhzTWF2azNVenJNaU5MQVg0RFJEZ3NDZFJJMXFHWGtqUVA1aFdzOG90RWt0YnU0UFBQNklzTkxObkR5WUt4Tm05VUNoSzFNZz09 |
There was actually a typo in the second equation. At some point I wrote 2kg for the mass, even though this is for the 1kg object. I've fixed this. I _calculated_ with 1kg so the result was correct though.
Anyway, here's the idea:
We are trying to calculate the acceleration of each object. To do this, we add up the forces acting on the object and divide it by its mass. Each object has 2 forces acting on it. The gravitational force, which is given by its mass times the gravitational acceleration. And the drag force, which I set to 0.1N as an example.
For example, for the heavier object:
10m/s^2 [gravitational acceleration]
2kg [mass of the heavier object]
-0.1N [drag force, negative because it's in the opposite direction of the gravitational force]
2kg [mass of the object]
10m/s^2 * 2kg [gravitational force]
10m/s^2 * 2kg - 0.1N [resultant force on the object]
(10m/s^2 * 2kg - 0.1N) / 2kg [resultant force / mass = acceleration]
The drag force will actually change based on the velocity of the object, but its exact value doesn't matter. All that matters is that it doesn't depend on the mass of the object, only its shape, size and velocity (and the medium it is moving through). So I can set it the same amount for both objects, to demonstrate how the heavier object will accelerate faster at every point in time. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLN2RudXE2Vm9NeUxLeFhaM3ltbXA5Nkl0RVVyaDBfNUN2UkpGcU9vRlZtX2VfQUpneURiV2JJdTJNWG84UzNmZ2dMWXVSSkJua0FiZUZ0ZTlKZ29DeGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVmhYSzFZU2x6LTYwRkRMMklucW5hM1BHRFEyWmtTX0R0MERDSC1aRU5Bc2EtQjEwa1lPQ3JoalpGbEVwZFVfQk5Wd2ktSEdvdjJselVrUXZMS1FLa0xIUkRxdnNnVWVWdVE4S3UtcFBFZ1FMbU5fTzdTLUJBVXIzVmNmMkc0c25GaGIzblEwVkFRTFNvYXZrMDc2T0NfMHhFbDRReWRkbFg5ZEIzWnpvWlAwNWRaT1ljTzAxZ2pWVE56aFNOcHA3VjBRd1VNLWFadzc4dWVwUE5QTWhBdz09 |
>Starship design was started in 2018. 7 years ago.
They were testing Raptor engine components in 2014. Musk and SpaceX have been talking about and sharing artistic interpretations of their planned 100+t to LEO Mars rocket as far back as late 2005 (back then called BFR). 2018 was just when one of many design changes, namely the change from carbon composites to steel tanks, was announced. But that was definitely not the start of the Starship design. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbExzVF91LUFPX2tsWVN5ZXgzZkJnSzRHcWJFRXBVV2QzaHVKVWt0bHYzV1lybDNGeVhmSFdCX09nbTl3cGtyRFhJWmNnYThaOWJyWUZfS09RYUg4WlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbEwxZUVRMGVVM0p3ekFWV3F3clBaampoSVQ0ZTlhQURSZVFjVXUyVm1TRUJLTWhVQUl4S1VUdkUzTFJKeElveGdxeFhybXNpQlhNYnRCaFVIamNPbzJlTmFXN0VYSWJscHQ0TVMzNG5DN1d1UU94bzRray01WUdJaUg3dE1JcERMNzNYOGJqZWx1a2t1WnVaZk5kRDN1WEZTZDVHRzF6UW44Vy1ka3plSnBpY1Jmck0tNEJhMUR6ZEtXRFp4RVp3MU9LTGhhbTAtSVNwSTJ5alg0aEExQT09 |
Everyone talks about how SpaceX constantly churns employees.
Surely many of those employees have ended up in other companies like Blue Origin, ULA, etc. Yet those companies are as sclerotic as ever, and still don’t move with the rapidity or urgency of SpaceX.
Almost like it’s a cultural issue. SpaceX can produce results fast | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbDg5TEloMjFCMG9MbnVKNzZLdFdURloyMEdWRG04OEc4Y3d6bGpucXVMNzdIdnlOOWU2eEJwZFQxdFBVWC1EckZiTmpYS0VLUGVxVzN5UlNsQk44YUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdlBkQnNlcmlaMTJ0S0xkSzJXcVRLTXpGUFhnbUo1cUlQQkxjQ2ZuUFZ1R29JT0xScG5ZTWFuUDlic2txTE5ES2dqYlViajNWN3Q1cFZvaTVpVWdYTmxyUGtvMWwtbl9jU2hNYmk4eVRmVEpRamZiRFBLZHVFaHhZSm1GVFVvRTd1d2tRZTVMT0pac1JsUUxDLTJUQkF3YnFrZ08tR0VFaUQ3NGVwODlJRkdyNjdIWlF3bjdReUNfTkdfZTBDWnp6bjByRjFvOXRzeEZzcFdqUThHbzlxUT09 |
I wish more people understood that Mars colonisation would not be fun or pleasant. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUlA5aTFWWEU3YlozUUZXdW1tWHpZMnZwX1BiMGdZeE8zNnFsWm5DbmQwX3dMai16bURkY3pPRGNYN1VQN0dTdWpUYzlBMkxJQm9lSTFfUUF2VWJyTnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWUpiZ3RWWG5NUzhNbmRjakVxbnJlU2M3ZmRTWmZhaURJT29aajlxbGRibS1wUGxiQVl4a1NWWkZYMnNSVmhuaUFkdVZLV3piWEJkRjZxWjRQNmNSZDM2SmNzc081V2dMSnpvbC1paVJnZVpQZDZKckFxbTJJdURTSEZBX2E5dU9mSWtaMW9xUGNyZm5HN19EUXU1SlN2cGk0aEQ3SGM2R1JPb1Y0Sk1jX3BpMVVJaDl4eWM1eWM2VzVOTDBxVzJpdVBLZ2tUcklrMGZ3SDdCZVJjSzZsUT09 |
I thought it was to shower the Bahamas with shrapnel 6 times a year. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVnNGVXFCeEdTLXFGeU1NWTNRVmhtREJmVG1JN2poNU1MVUdNakhnVnNTSUhoSG5hQ0hUQTRPZGFfT0Y2eFlnRWhkVnBDNkdGS1ZlSHFFUk1pRXlTWGhlQUUySGdSMWZfTGV1ZEo4a3lldGs9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNVgtSlRHQ0hnWjJIbXBHUTNXaXdpSkZsZmZDMVN1andjZ0c3MU9Uc0RUN1NHdWdWTlpNWUx2aXBJTlhqZ1lQTHVGb0toaGRaX19iRFVTcHFKeUdyMGdkZHh6N3dxMFVoOVlLZjR4cnNuczBsLWJDdTBPV0lzek0waXRlVS1faVJGemRVVFNvOVJhZ1RNejNKSkZseHJzaUhpYkJBTEZ2Q2V6Nko3bDREcGUxZ25hQTlRREp3c1lUZ0N4eGx5NDE5cTR4cjl2dGlEMDVISVU2blNWNnYyZz09 |
They reached every goal with v1.. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLR2VENE5hTFlBSXJVQ1M0STJoY0VQOHRjRGY2S1dWRDZmMDRYYkx2T2N0TE1jVU1QWXV0VmpyOG80UTViX3VCU3NqcVhKQWE2VG5HYkMwdHdScnBnNGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLXzl5VFdVbklKN0FvQkhCMFUwcGNSbTJvaFJFSEJQd2UyM1RIdFFYUDhPYW93UEtFcG1IUjhXZXhYdTJIalhfWWV3YVRCY0lsb0dEMUZZTTFXcGhLdURmblNRZXd5V0d2aEc2cVRMQWkyZ2ZqUVAtT0NkQ0RnRTI5ZnFfeV9aaHpmMlBtbHRTeGliVnpHNkpEQlZXUHlaekJmWEFnb3hxUW1pTEZGRlFfMFY2MnhkVFVuVE43ZWppQWliUkNtdnlo |
What you're seeing here is that is just a silhouette of some dust particle or scratch on the window, it's not actually on Earth. The 'shadow' of the Space Station from that perspective would actually be a bright spot, due to what's called [opposition effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_surge). | r/nasa | comment | r/nasa | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSFBHNXEzU3ZOYXhjWWxvYkNBYzY0MnBRUzBlZlI1Y0ttTGdfcnNlQ1ppWDBWNklvS0xxY2I0R1BXLW9NYmJBTXNYTXZsOFhwcG9iRGZYVHk4eWNqR1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLa29jN1JFY3hrVGZnamxaTjVnVGVRTGdxRFVFcUFxNXl1aTd4TDhyZ1ZVUXhMdVJpbXFPOTBCT3ZkbnhTM3RPbEExVVpmWmk5SGZnTEpxWmQ0R3hWMjVJTGYwSGVocVRGWE5SSzRtRWl4MTA2TmFtMFR0TFlYRWVuak5idGRSUDAwTmdlSUhWa2NhYzdIaEFsWUMydDFWRk1xZ2lnaTlSOFIzNDlreWlnLWd1Q2Y3dXZiY1VlTnVqY2w2a1pST3Et |
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# Welcome to the r/SpaceX Starlink 10-23 Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!
Welcome everyone!
| Scheduled for (UTC) | [Jun 22 2025, 05:47](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=0547&d=2025-06-22) |
| --- | --- |
| Scheduled for (local) | Jun 22 2025, 01:47 AM (EDT) |
|Launch Window (UTC)| Jun 22 2025, 05:47 - Jun 22 2025, 10:17 |
| Payload | Starlink 10-23 |
| Customer | [SpaceX](https://www.spacex.com/) |
| Launch Weather Forecast | Unknown |
| Launch site | [**SLC-40**](https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceX/wiki/pads 'Pads Wiki'), Cape Canaveral SFS, FL, USA. |
|Booster| Unknown |
| Landing | The Falcon 9 1st stage will attempt to land on one of two East Coast ASDS after its flight. |
| Mission success criteria | Successful deployment of spacecrafts into orbit |
|Trajectory (Flight Club)|[2D](https://flightclub.io/result/2d?llId=f78364d9-3c60-4c72-a410-84a499233db0),[3D](https://flightclub.io/result/3d?llId=f78364d9-3c60-4c72-a410-84a499233db0)|
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# Stats
☑️ 529th SpaceX launch all time
☑️ 470th Falcon Family Booster landing
☑️ 1st landing on N/A
☑️ 14th consecutive successful SpaceX launch (if successful)
☑️ 80th SpaceX launch this year
☑️ 36th launch from SLC-40 this year
☑️ 3 days, 23:51:50 turnaround for this pad
*Stats include F1, F9 , FH and Starship*
# Timeline
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# Updates
| Time (UTC) | Update |
| --- | --- |
| 17 Jun 06:40 | [Delayed to NET June 22.](https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=63071.msg2694467#msg2694467) |
| 12 Jun 17:56 | [Launch pad assigned.](https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html) |
| 12 Jun 17:10 | [Added launch.](https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=63071.msg2693631#msg2693631) |
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Chill. It's a joke. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMU82WExDakN0R2d5d2ItWFIycW5aazBoWVh5WVQzWXBENG9URmF6SXVPbGdrZmItVW1HRWExTmxISlU5dUJXM1FQZmJfUGNiLTN3RURkTmk3YTQ3eERkZVZqTUJ6aUgzQUZiN0FIeTRnVUU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbjRtQ1pzTW8xX0JkU1VzSGowT2FMbkZFV2NWUnFLRVdzOW9faHpHY1ZBQ1Y4QlNhZGQwbUR2RkhXU1RXR3dSLTJxZ0VLVi0wLW5zeWY4V0ZYZGR1TVhaQ19MZThfN1VEcVNwMjE5UjBSaVJuVllYbkdDbFV3NHJfNmF3cDAzc0pNRFBUNnhtT3BuVmpsY2JrXy1LT043V25uT1piSmV2TWtRMkdVczliLVllR1J6eGZiYWVYWXB0M3hSZndBTE0z |
Starship is conceptually the Cybertruck of rockets. Blowing it up, root causing the problem and trying again has its limits. It’s not going to make Starships a reliable, safe ride to Mars, the Moon or anywhere else. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLazNiMnVQSEhSakhEOVp4N0o2bE81dVhxamZoTGNsTF9pMjF6VWNWV3N4QUc5d1pwUXp6M2cyN2hiNTR5RWNlNi10SGI5b0NWNktMT2w4UDJpWUc2cWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLV19qOU9HZDhreVNqdV9vTkZFWWJLaW1PS2dHamllSFVMVzVUeFhzbi1uRGRodWlPcVUyMVNBUF91ZUlfYkI4NmlfNlFheHlBMjBlT3JBaEZsOXY4bzZWNGdBNUYzWUxYMF9ocmdQd3UtQWcyLTdwUFQ2MzVrb0YyWF9nUEVhNVFNUTZtMUV3c3d1TG9fZjBUbkU2d1picnhNTG1Jank0aWFQbVg0TThHUkJRbm5BcFIyZm1FTEU1Ung1UjRaZURIemxEM0xRSmV3ZDRWeHZqdXJuQTY5Zz09 |
Ma’am*
25 character limit for comments?! Weird | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLR2VzMEpIbjhGeXpkWWF6MzVXOEJ1TEE1cFVZM0dYZFpPOEZCLTFwMjlRMVVMQ0pqX0YxRUR3ektEelpHekxRUFpKdFV5Yk5KZWt4cGdDNDFLa0RQN2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMm13UzN5b240RFYwS3o4enNXXy1xRU9qQW5Bbnd2RHZobXJ2em1SeDhRbUZwUlpuYmhzYjh3b0lLMS1CSEFMN2cwSW9vUl9wRmNhOEhXVExmenVnQU5XZjJZNC03VGRmUjl6S3k3dnBBcXE2VWZ3VzAtZEhXZlQzcTJ1QV9PMVFEMnp3UXN3d0pYN1dPT3JoOHRNemxSRFRDOTlzMWVWUm93bWhNbHE0ajNqSUlWNWpPdy1MbUlLeXVrRUJMVEMxNVJSRklYeC1aMWdESmVzbG1OZ0hWZz09 |
That incident is the reason that exclusion zones around rocket and ICBM tests became the norm, at least in Russia. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNmtsT0J0eGdLamRDVDE0d0EzYmsyQXFmZm05NlZ5R2NTbF9fdG1BZTRhMU9QcjU2bFdTZGVNX3FLUXJNVVF0b2wyOUdUOWY1WU94VFFRZV9KbU45d3VOZ1hRSF9OQXd1aVR1M1k0MlNJdFk9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSGtTSzlVTk9PbzQtRmktMWZLcFZYWl91dGVnT3NheG1wVmxFdmJQUF9Id3FlQnlVSkhPcEp6aDJReUVTSFlSc2lpT0g1b0o1UzRuTTRJenVjZE0zYTZHeGtwcUdKMVc1V0ZyT2N4ZnlPekJmZXhUd215LWtTaVZmbjlmTGFiOEJYV2ZJbDJLS2EyWUV4WVh1bHZMVS1vTXZPTHhTanhBTnFRVXcxZXk4VElYX2NhZUtTNmhzV2pTYVRGbnhGaWQzR3A1QUU1Q1lmeTE4R0l5b1ZVbUZXZz09 |
It's a joke of the industry that caught on. Its used for the people who follow the material regularly, It's not for the political tourists and they don't need to change it. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcjBMMHo4cW1VU244b0xaTEQtUF9NVXJ6MktwY0IzYWJEcGE2RGV2eUZWQ01zSjdVNGpkSzZTV2hYbGlHTVd4WGV1ZWk1TzFvU2tSREVNWTh4MGItVGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSnROcTFKaERUU2ptYWM2WUc1YjhfT3phZmYwVzAzSFdLX1otcjRtUVVCRG41UFF6R2hraUVSSmtvS2t0MVU5czNVbTJnSXExTC1aa0s2SzBpUVEzaURiQVlzOVBadHJQcVgzclV0RXZtN0FtZHdIcFBkUmZwamEwRGVXOGtSaDNJajhIWU42RUF4TVI3M0dZeVViVFBneHo3SkxnTEFUdUVOVWt5NDBDWS0zWnRSR0tRQXdGYV9MYmRVdTBwUlFjU3drcGgwNHBzUEg2T1plaEdJbTNVUT09 |
That's just patently false. They didn't get starship back to earth in any kind of acceptable condition that could have been even refurbished, they didn't refuel in space, they didn't fire rockets in space, they didn't perform docking procedures in space necessary for refueling, they didn't get to orbit, they weren't even able to open a cargo bay door, | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbkRQdnFNXzllNWc3azBKWkNrdjVVTGZnTXRGa3pvTWlWWUo2QTRkRjdWeDR6cW1VY2pnYUNKOXVzYTh2MVJxaW16VjV4bXZGNGtxcDRkUzNxZFA2bHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdU4yZHhKajV0TEZWTTB0OVhMMWcwazM2cTJQY1RuckwxbWtIZ19ieF9VQWdFOHViUEw4Y3QtRFhybEJMWHBrUlRnMUxiTmpfbjctUGxfdnpJMTViWHQxb2xDWGVkaTlsWklUY2lxcVFrTGNKNXdEeEhqRTBZVlNyenpxQzFXOFlGUHNUcF9HRXJ2RnhtdEt2dEpuRC13SWRWdDZRMzU4c0h0ODd3cnZCOEQ4XzNZT2FBai0yRTg0Uzg3RlhGS1dK |
It’s like, 100 million dollars per launch, and you’re trying to convince yourself that after (at least getting to space), a full loss of not just the vehicle but the amount of damage and contamination at the base, is a good thing? 1000 launches? Let’s say they were able to get it down to 50 million per test launch with a reusable booster, you’re fine with like, over 50 billion just to complete its basic functions?
Blue Origin got to orbit first flight. Elon will never love you. You will never fly on starship. There will not be any starships landing successfully on Mars in this decade and probably never. (He predicted LAST YEAR there would both cargo AND crew on Mars… like all of his timeline predictions…) | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMDZEOW81MThFWHRPZVdSWTBYTWZnUFdtRXNud1MtN2k2eklBNW5EZGJZUGVTWVQxWF9zdWx1TnA3US1GOHJnU2hyT2Y3bVB2Rzl1dEg2ZnppVHpHV1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcXpLYW5BLURMQ1N4Y2hNQlJoWnpkN3RBeGdIRWlXSnl0R3RDNExZUXduT2NfbzlxeFAzYy1TT2NXLVpLUDdQWmh1TGxuOTI5V0pzNURJYml5WlI1Wmtndy1rNmNPN3U3dE5xX0lqQ2t6VFJLZkU1ZGVrTGlHclJWWUR4YXlwZWs3X21pVmxqWktpdENkVXlPcVBubG1CTmZmSFNUOW4wMHFBelFoNVJRdGhGYjB5VXpuTG1oWDk3Mm01LXFRcHF1 |
Not a good look if he’s trying to get a message across. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSWNrLWIyYktNc0pxdFZNUjZhdVZvRklXN2N1bFYtNm50TEtXWng5YnNiT05hZXIxY0JZemhiMllKVk9wYkFtRjBNQXJ0V21vUllmcEFuMFlnX3gxUkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbnhNRHE3QldsMzFZUC1FU0RhaDU1OTU2bksxSTZZTUxCa2FUbTJQOW53cmFWdjMxVzFsTFdOZnJ0MGFaUEx0eXNSalJKSmRUdFhiYS1FWTRZZTlWaDdPZ3hRcFc4RDJSSHRnUEVrTnJ5b3c1T3VqOGhGQjN4ZG1mR1k4Y0ZvSm5kUWNxRWhuUWhRbVVUa0h2SEFJVE5vV0xPOFFSMDhObktPbF9fM3VaZXVaWHo2VVcxTXFtMlpfcmhOd1ZjVVJf |
Four months is my best estimate. 3 months minimum - six months maximum in which case they should rebuild for Starship 3 testing. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUDkwaEIwR0s3Z0U5WGhkcldRRG5aZ1M5bUFqRzRETlNtOUZCc0V6V0tJYlBKYWRlSUl5M3FFNm9kS2lNX1JNaHA1andnY3AtdGFjS3YxX1FCYTNTeEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQ1pSdEJqclBZcmFOR3hkdnptdnpYRkNvWnQzSTVEb190S0RDWHUwWFJueWl0d1BBZlJaLW5PQmtITEhGTkh2RXN1WFhLOW9Danl3bDJBdW5meVZCbW9XYnh5R0JNcmNkMXFJWjluVnJZSGY4bWV0c2p2czNxSFVpRHlIZW0tdjFOc3RWNWp6V25WeWd1UVEzLTVBa0ZabldSQmRfYy1DN2drM3R2UDR4ZHdKekNianVzUVBNTmctVnBjNUd3YWxE |
Just because it's not a public company, does not mean it doesn't have shareholders. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMlpBUHRNZGRveWNVMXMyakpqMW1hUUdpcm1IODV6cGVBQ1NMT1Atb0x2U2RGU3NNNWJhYndvM1l5T1ZuMzhiMkhJeEh1WWNUTWtpMExrTUhlNzBBZ1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT0I0U0doNHUtbkNCem1hTXRqY2JDUjRoWE9raHpkanFWR3k3UG8yb09VcG0xR20xSlAzZUVlUW9MR3JkVkExTGtRUHQ0eWxRSG10NWlveDZWd0ZpMlQ1RUlTN3M0SC1WUEVZMzB6TWtoTEZxbEE1NkRqSzk0M2hQaENrNVJrSEJheUNveFJMVHk1UFhIamxrWEV5cmd0emxOemVORmJUNkZCQzFqN25wemlPN1pDUzBfOEJNMkpqMkg0Y3NIb202 |
HLS Starship is such a radically different vehicle from the normal Starship that if it's unable to deliver Artemis I see no reason why SpaceX would continue developing it on their own. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRHI5SHE5MjdCV0R1dUsteGFtMFI4X1g2LWg5SnBoakZIR3BULWk4TldqOUlCZlF1RlRhajhyRV9MYzNVQ2hVU0VQX1FXVUhIaS0teklBeUxNeTNSblNCMnpJVDdsZFNVdlFJdWlWdlNOa0k9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZ3BVVU92ZTR5bDVMY1Y2a052UVVpQTJwQkVTTlAwdEVpU3hieWVjckNSVlNvbHVUcVFaVGU0aWxpUTE2c2t6bmRhZVZSWlh5TVNabDdTWFNEd3UycFI5bXItMTlGQmFBaGJsSEhZUkN1bmlIVW5mSGNkbGpsNWRrSFFfTWt3am5COGNkcDA4WVdNTE5vZzJzQ0lUN2tiUkFGdFNpSjNlRDNtaXhaaHg1Q0ZGQlY3QVpjM2RzWGUyazYzaGZna1dVbXJaWTg2dDQ5bGpGTmZPVl9Yd0ppdz09 |
I understand the optimizations, but if he’s running starship like cybertruck, the cybertruck have been having RUDS of their ow, by trying to save money by cutting corners… | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNHRKNGwwb1VvLUNrejNPdEE2NngxS0g1bkdjUzRBMGZjanZTd2JZZWpKcTVqdDBqbWZ4MmdkV3RteTVuYktMWU93VmYxUHpPcDhZa280Z0dBR2xNanc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVDJaS011eUFtZDhlNmFDY0NKRERDMUdSSm5RYlZRUFY4X3hQYXdDM0hWdXF3MldqRHhsUXdlRUFtYWw4X1FRMjdLdFo0SjR0VmYyaVJ1QjhhaXYtWlY1X1FVQVFmS2RBaGVDYlN2eS1nU1g1RkJkVUh5c2lvS0MyaFp2TmplY05NcW15VEdCdXNoMjVPUUtqM3hjaktjcnFyeWhhMldfS3ZGbUtrWnhpbldPdUpkQkp5dDAtM0ZuaWRQLWprZi1R |
That is one of the best “Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly” events I’ve ever seen… | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUU9KTG1TTW1yaGxRTkhsSUpoM0hiUFBTNFJGRUQ1a29JMUhfcm9yUjN5ZTkwbU9CWHJiVkZFSmdFck9FVmdFQk9BYVFKcXJfUjliYi1CSkFfdXAyeTYxNkxCQ0xnUFRBcEI3QUdLLUMyeTg9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUE53MDlLWlNaSUkxQ2pCYXl0cDJOX0tFTy1DdVlSU3FNNWFaakxZUXRFQUU2a204Tkd1dnIwVkxqYnE1dmN5N1MxOUFsa0hQUngyZFF0V2J4SzZKcWdKYUhfRnZqUGxzMjdTUXU0bk1sRnlBWk1OZ2JrSGZCb3lhcTNpSXpqYkZhSXRoT09BaXFPbjdUSXFTNVBPY05VWjhpblVRaXdGd29kaTF2aHhrcGNJaVdHTzVNVkl5MUVfTXk4dDZzYllLbEVsZms5ME5hOTdIM2YyMVpjSUtrUT09 |
Starship started development in 2019. The BFR and ITS ideas were not the same project, they just covered the same role. Also New Glenn has under performed and is slow in pace. SpaceX has since dominated the entire industry with its falcon platform. As for Starship it has already proven booster return and reuse, Starship itself has shown orbital velocity, and tested in flight fuel transfer. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeGp5TEczQlcza1pkMmFKSjJhbUNERU5HM1BkZFRvRHg2VjdFUkROaGNWQW9JT0hDR0diNGp6Wk8td3l2Q3ZKOW9meWxQaVZxNWZyM08xSnlKdE1zZmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbERkbXVDU0pMTzhwUkVYVVlyQl91aU1uaFc3X3l0c05OWng2NHpEY2dVM2VZRkZiTzVUVzEzaFhnZjN1OWNXdnV5MVdyVjNDc0swMG03ajYwQmhZMzFRR29kMkM2c1p1S2g4dDFoVU54UV9aU21uNnQtaTJ1VjBEcW9rTHNYT3RIVHJTdlVCY1prZE15cVRVVkJWLVpfb0l0TjNZMi1EZkVNZGJtNXJHa0FiVG5ZZUFpTTdLVzF5US14UjlySUdCdThPXzFnLWFyWWxsNFcyQ1JMY2c3UT09 |
I’m fairly certain that’s just a hyperbolic joke | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVUY0TnpKdEJFQV8tVkRpZ2FqR2RRU243ZGc0N2VMUjVOSHByU0RlSS0wdjJSZjh1cDF1SExfY0dvZVVyOTIyMVhPQU8xMmcwbXpOUV9Qc3BzVnpFaHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLam5PdlptTHNKMS10ZFBkdEI2dkF2aFJnNlBDU3hJZlhuZFYzekxWTDdldTlHZU54elJXUXZWa0JwaW1fYTE5UHVwT3lBbGx0c1RDdVI1bngxbmt6MTRKUzNrZXV1bTBYZktoLW9sTmtqeC1GNjZLaFoxMWZqZXpHZ25OUDBJallEY2JWcmZPNk1KRGMzRi1fcS1GdzROVk9UX0VCZ2lHSmREUHd4QVNGZGNwOG9GdldIbDlZeHNHZGpUMVRIWmZB |
They did a relight of a raptor, they did a soft splashdown as planned, docking, orbit and refueling wasn't planned for v1. Only opening the door failed. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdVdJdlhic00tSE1HSEhyVUU3Z0cyQ1dNSnUySHpLOHhSTXFzd3V2R3lQNkRhbXQyTUw5UkVGNjB0M2Z0UUtJNGVud05faGNpN01vTS1qTjd5Z3poTFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbjNNYlVkbHFGdEtBRnRpcHk4UlhZeDl1Wm5qaTlYVVdsX1NqUUtJMklDQk9CUGFSb0JVYW1EZDlKRWY5dmNrR3JwOUQyQlZYY0x1eDhpcnJpQ0R3UXdwQjAzN045YlppZ3hZaFNiSUFCckp5M2Y1V1I3VFc3LURYSGJGTFRYRDhEWllQY2ZiTFlUVzZDT3drOGpQd2FxU19mZkJPUjRNTTNDS3ZKd1lvMlFLSzhaRUVFSV9MQkhrNjhZQVNRU2tU |
Why are you judging the failure rates of something in development??. Makes 0 sense.
Look at their other products that are in production (falcon) for real statistics.
Falcon is the most reliable launch system, and the cheapest.
SpaceX the only American made system that can get astronauts to/from the ISS
And you morons want to go on and on playing armchair quarterback because you don’t like the CEO for personal reasons | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUk1SZlZMT19iZXNtbXkzV2RuLWVTVHEyT0pnVWNNci1ySkpPakFqcENmdnUtbzI1SGdpVzZBblRGSjZ1dTF1VnEzNjhWVFdDaXIwMTRpaG9DdjZFMEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZ0NGRFRrNGh5ekZMdE96YlFqdW9TMzdkV0c3ek5DOUpzaUc4djZBLWlSeS1QUVBra0tfQlplQXd6OFRMcWFyTko2UnVtMHUwVWZWWTNMYl9PY3NTQUN6akg4OEYya0FXa29XbVRYeEh6VVN4b0NMZmpYc1dzNmdtN19LSFFWeW02TlNlMG5XdHE3RXlwel9OTENmaEVVd0N4UjdqNXZGRUc4Q2l3eFFYem1RSVJXMl9yeGhuTVZvbzlSTl9zUjdMMUxyTWxLd3RaaFhWblRGR3dJYXJVUT09 |
Given that it's followed up by
> And now a mad man holds a crucial function of our country hostage to his fickle whims.
then I suspect they meant it. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLXzdObnZLc0xnZ21GamlWWF9NdlU4alZjNGZ5dVlsazUxSmVyWkxXZXZaejdmU01oU3RlQ2l2aG9oLW1Hck91c2h4VDRPLWdqU3dGX3ZoaWdEbkFmVnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT0dHckw5dXQ0QmduNE01TElxWkhnaHlWeTIxbUVEbmV6NFFTc2d0Q1J0OWtfSUVrMVItTEo5cFNvMGU5N2NDTVV1ektRZWlSTVZNLTdDNmZNbWxPTXd6ZHlpNTJLQXlsNHVWbGVKUnppOWxCU0Uza3hheEZ5Snk0NTNuX1NvYnRmU1Z0TGdPUmRMV2FEMU54dXY1M2IyT2RUVzZQQ2FKajFBMG1salJFdGotTzZDbWpseXFzSlpPbkxESkpCemZv |
Missing mass found in darkest corner of the gloriest hole. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLekdtRTM0dHFWVDdnbE05YS14d1I5dGZQb3NpeGdrT1lyOExGc3FGUHFOdklIVk9HTmtFb25DNVRKdU1TS0ZrcHpkaDBENXlxRkp4UklTOUhRU1pDSmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVnh3UFVhU2pZajFFNlFyclJPYUxrY21fdnFCWWZsRnlTalNpVV9yaVp6NGtEZjA0R3ZnT1VBTy1Qb0Jlb2ZnZWZobGYza204Zi1ERXFaTGtYTi12S0I0M3FPdHVYdWFYQTVFbjBwLUUyUHh3NExkNFRXbDNrNm1nMy1ZMnZseEpNN0FNMGgtbHpDbEdyLWphRkNMR3RsXzgxRGxrUXQ5TGRObjZsTmxhTmE4Y2NaWXdMMnVoRWJ5TDZNTVBOekhJaWpLVVdUeVU1NTlSUWZyekExcGk5Zz09 |
Blue Origin made it to orbit first try. And didn’t need what is probably going to be dozens of 100 million dollar plus starship failures. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLS3Bab0pRRjJ1S1FKcy0tVTZRUVdZbUFHWlhhMmVESkg2VUNxSmR5eGY2S3ZYTGdJTGpMVjhNbGszdkRNQl9XUzRQckY2TGZTdjdfd1BPdEZiaEhkYVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcFpvNTJ6dmdfNXZyLVJBRGlXSUFTMEJINmFBNlpfLXc1LTNoN3ExdUQ5b3BaTXlBaXhPME9OMXk5X1FlcThoNlM5MzZSaGpkTEY1UHE4eXJmX0c0MTB2YlFhOHZQTDlFN28zbFRHTnRmcE9JbzdFT3BnOGNuT2x5ZTNfcy14dVNIemE5SDlSWmo2NjdCT0hYbVB6UWNUQkNNV3pKSGlVd0JIYmpuTllJdUNVZ21JWjNtd0xCOTlRSXM4OElwM2Iw |
It does however remove obligations to them. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSTNPb0F3Zmpad2VuQVlPZ3NpaDZKWGttZ3ZabVM2WURwaGtudndCOVI3S0U5VVBSY0E4WmNQNEExU3BWWmpSanNXV1BKbnpTNGlHbmRuXzBWX2xuWWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeUNVMWZvaUx1dVlpY01JWmJ4YlRTUWxTQVFuMGpzSU5KaVpUbDFTLWhXakd2SkY0U2I5Z0d0R3pwV0FsSENONVdlb01Hb3lPN0QtY0gzNUl1eW1PNXhWQ0lhOGJlek5UMHR2TXVqd2tnbEZTZ2hreDllVXNmbGYwVjVoZEhNcTB0dW03X2s2R3l5YVhqYWV2VFg3aU1leThiVVhKUF9pdG5sV0JDYkxrdEF3ei1CRi1mWWxRRFBRa2RETmJ6akdX |
I’m seeing sooooo much irrational cope from the mElon loving crowd. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYmtDUkcxMVlBT2d2V2dlelFnTzVvbVcyZE42bnNLRmFZZHhMVFkwelVOWVBwZTdpYUhocW1SbkxfZldSdlRXc2NVQ2pwUTBpRUJ1UERHV193TUtUcUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVHVmWG5nY0xoYkNVQ2tmUXhTd1lrLVBLQWpzV1R6Yy10ZzQ5WHNmbElzRDRydTNQbWppVTRJQi1FWlBmTGN6QWV6RmdFUjI1ZmM2TmNjSlduRFU2bnRhY2VFNVhYZ1cyd3VxYXJaMDNFbXBCWDVScDhXZktCMk54U2ZSb3ZwbGZRUXdiQml1eG9rVVZ4R0VMYTA5UHkyTVBXd0VJZ2hEWE9JUW5yNXNMSUw4N21ZTlgyT2pzbl9lSUV3MHduSzJm |
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I think your underestimating the drag force, because in a vacuum there is none and both object will fall at the same time. Give me a few days and I'll come back to you. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLampzYVo2RGZuMEtMSy1taERIU2F2ZWxySVlQcHVEWk9jblljLUlOSHd6RU5XVmU4XzNWSVAybDdmVjhIZE1zY3lUR2ZXckZySWgtbVZQbEU4czQtVFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLY0FXaUhkcmlsWThNMmZseU9hQVpjMzN2RTRGVW5GMEFDbnhPUVpLazFEVlBWUXJvdXdBb3htLUNwSE04d0xwdUZhdXRqTkF5a2RRMm95REhqaHhORG1yb2pGSEx1V1BCeF9jbm5ZeHFreFEwRmd0YXVFLVJybjVkeE9velE2WVZkU242dHNUUjZoZFdsV0NfSDVMU2M3QkZPYTJBa3lOeTlKbVp1WEhCQkZIRHduUHBDc1BNUThZb0hGUEtNd2pYX1J0aV91NmVwakM3UmNRSU9USE5XZz09 |
What about composite materials (carbon fibers, fiberglass), lubricants, plastics, ceramics, combustion byproducts, heavy metals, … ? Remember that Starbase is right in the middle of a biosphere reserve. It’s not quite “business as usual, nothing to see here”. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWWx6UjNmVnVrbHhtWXI4V3EwejBqQmp2aHp1ZVlwQ01pUVgxTHJKckdKZ0JOajZKVHRoeDFXUE9rRFVxSWVyTV9tamhETVRvQUNZWlAxNDVqLUxhSnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLblRXYUdtUnBMcEJlVXIyLU5ac3VyZlJDWi1LWTRXU1lRSEhRMDU2THN5RjBVazB0S1dsUVhWendDdEdaN2JKX1BpT2xRYjhUVUpuMmlGRmxmZWlfRUtmVGxLVjJlM3dKSUxSSVdNMzRkRnFLcG51TkZabEZOR2VZWjlhdk1STC1JMzU2anh4cnpIN3JHaTIzR1NORHVEWnpld0ptbXJueEVPYU5iMUFMOFVLc0lhVzNtR2VhSVljazRpNmZIYTc0 |
Yes, the cybertruck is a gimmick.. a lot of the bad press is greatly exaggerated though. I think the design philosophies are quite different though. The CT had a fixed design which actively prevented a lot of the initial goals to be reached. Starship has goals that have already led to radical design changes, such as stretching both the booster and ship. Starship will also have continued design changes for a really long time after it reaches operational status. The CT looks to be abandoned already... | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeG5ydFprTVhySDFDWmdUX3hKRG1mYk5xUEtRVWxXN3RiVThzcWplZVA1d09sZUxLVDl5LXN2QjEyS0NIOUdzWTg4QjlaODRwWEE3N1QtSks4Y1hLblE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbnd0YWRkOGJUMXZkc3NVRnN3VXVDcGFwaW5BcTBTdFU4WGU2alQ4NHFqQWNRRlluY2pmZkZRY2EzTi1ObjR3RHVsVGhJRG52MUpTSlNFNFp5UndmMG1BLWkyci01WEdQMkU4Mkx0anBSejJpbll6dzR0a0todTZ3cHJXaWxmR2o1SUlnZjVYY3BwLW1RVi1kOWd0ampjcUJsWTlWUFV0VU80c3A4djVWcXZRbkVIZDdsMjFPb2l6Vk5ZZkZjVTAt |
No, we make parachutes out of light fabric so we don't have to carry a big heavy thing up with us. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVnIzbndrYjRHWG1YX1JteVU0SUxRZnVtNkpoMmRXc3dtaWEwV184eUlvZ3JyQk5nYlJ0NmU4bFdpZEFESFNFb2tSZDdocDY0QXZuQk82TkRvYk5wTXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYXFCQXNVdDQwWkR6dkJoTll0NHM4ZV84andBTkMxU0VMODZqb1RCZTRlZkxnQ1g5dHNDREdVZjRMR0lickRrNnE3bDhwN19MdVkwcTZYVFA5UWhpcEZUUWRHcDZCcjl2RDE4ZEtfdnE2Z1lRWVVQTjhsWDN5c2hVVEZTYjJnSFdHbFg3LVVxT2RfRVFqcERaNmlyZ01tTnNoY3dvV1VoWDFORTVoRFBKZEI4Zy1kWjJvNUwyaVpDZG1HUWRWYlcwTGtVRFUwLTM5RTlNSkZfZ2hWZjVWQT09 |
The reason I feel concerned by it is not really what seems to be the program going backwards, thats just the sort of set back to expect with this sort of fail fast approach.
The real issue I see with it is that this stuff will be the easiest part of the entire program. If this is the pace now, getting the thing operational for manned long range missions could take decades. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLU2RoN004VjY1V2g2bG82NXI1NEY3RS1mSFUtNkw5ZGdVbnBiTDNFaG1UU0c0VGlFYXlOZ2JsN2pIWUlkWkt0eGREQVVQV3VYUlVRa0NiRGd3X21XOHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZ0JrNFByd2JNaW5PR0NfbkRKR3NCN1JlMTctelZZUGJiWmJyLUthdFlLeHk1eDVkQm1ZQ2t0Um11cVNUU1ZMT1liTjUwRjJHZzFXUU9qSHV6N1U2WlZrR1V0TlFBOF9BTS0tRUs4OXA2OWRxajI5SDBqVlZjelkxMkFSTkpoT2hKRE5DX0xoWlBuWTVZSnA5bk4yUUVod0RDS3I0bWhTNDg2NHlVTGpueTlFSEhEUXBoYnlRR05yS2xjTVhDNU13 |
1. The certification needed will depend on the contract funding the work and the requirements they impose. As the Overlord says, the different big agencies will all have their own standards. Military will have their own standards too. Commercial projects or internally funded ones have the freedom to select which of these they want to follow depending on their objectives and budget.
2. Simulation requirements are set by the purpose and circumstances, same as in any other industry. If you're trying to simulate if some mechanical part can take the loads then you have to apply the expected load conditions, with the appropriate margin to cover analysis resolution and the applicable standards.
3. Lots of analysis is done in Matlab/Octave, Python and just plain Excel too. There are open source tools for lots of special purposes like the stuff in FreeCAD and NASA publishes a number of tools that are open source too for things like radiation.
4. Although you "could" we typically don't. Once you have failure points identified, you rework the design until you have no failures in sim. Only if you're working a failure modes effects and criticality analysis in great detail would you break something in the sim deliberately and then look at what ripples into the rest of the model. That can quickly get expensive so most programs don't go to that level.
5??? | r/spaceengineering | comment | r/SpaceEngineering | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMk1hbGwyblBTY1ZkWWh0aEN5ZGNtRjJORi1fOWhZaUtFWjR4Z3Z2dW5rWjAwLURFcWJjQ3hJMW00VlRlRmU1R2p0T2ZSWkFLcXVEbFZ0OTJlZ215Y2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYU9BVUdmcE5ISW5SN1FwNWdEV0ZucGFDWTg2eW42dkxEczQ4SFRnT0hxZ1RUcGplWTBvZmFKWmtxVVRrdExveUc3WG44MmVEeHZJT0k2MmtZR1pET1NJdU5PcEhIN2JlQzk5emZ0THlNNUlIcHpYSmlsa0EwUkRBQ2VjYndqMXB6LVNxbGRHLURpaDNWU0toTVd5cjlsNmtwZUg4MFRSS29BWVdxUko0TW9BZ3ZBNXp2RU44TWgwaTBaUjh5blJNdk5pbVFlTWhLdUVyakt6REFuazhUbl9GUTF4RDZTN3V2LVRKTkR5R0FUUT0= |
Yes, I am specifically not talking about vacuum. I'm talking about a case where there is air-resistance, but both objects have the same size and shape. But one of them is heavier. Exactly like in the Veritasium video you linked. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLX2U4TExoZ1YwU3JLWW9ISURock5jYl9yTjNzNzlENlcwVGlkWklYVFRESmRxdTRhelMzUk5xb2FsampJUVVRdll1SHoyckpCdWczN1R3WEpCVmdJN3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLY1JyZW44Y3Q5dmU1eGpmVXJCMW8wbFhEUkxEMjJJaE1kQkthWXhITW1OYkFIN0ZVb2Rzd3pzTmp5YXNITi1rckh5RktBOGR2TGtsOUtYZzBzOFJEdUJNYmtJWjI3OUxMVWpEU0RRM25vZVdfdU1ZZG01RDdrbFB5US1pMnVkcEhla3dtZm9MUGxYXzlIZ0tXRTlZR3UtNTRTdER1cm80MmcxOFJTLU8tZkdDUWFhWnFPOEpJOF8waGJSZEFnc24zRUlPSHBXMjJKd21kXzBEWEdzRmduQT09 |
Kilogram of steel, because steel is heavier than feathers. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUDFJcE1ZazZaaHVUWmNoWEJzdC1Ub2F6Q2wxOUM3NTNFRVZtNW1YNmY5SVlTLUlJQkdBQkN0WTVOdU40TzN0U2VZSTN2cGx0Ry1SSXhxRzh5bzFBV01vaksyU1owU3FzUUpHRTYwbWlDNkE9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLODB0a2ZNdzI1TXBiYTh0NmFyTHQwZUVacFY0NlNKZURhUFJKVmNhd3lKX2FKS09xSl9aYXNiUDBvV2NkMDkwbkhpYVNURmlrNVhTaUdkUmRVbmRBQmk5aENVeFB6dDdRcUpPZnRiVldLMGN3QmN1Rzh1YlREZDh6X1NXNG9lMjAxQ01SVzhMN1lHR01zX0xlQVI2NDh3RW1VN1dxNjhqTkt3NXFXSnZaeDI2R1IzMzJ6S3lZMFBPMkswdV9qX2luXzdvSFV4Q1IwZ1pPS211UkFOeVpvUT09 |
Many and many. Not denying those facts. Nor can anyone deny the fact that Artemis was a success on its first and only flight. On a much more complex mission. It just worked. My original response stands to the poster stating that we can assume starship “should work” in the next 30 years. Seriously? 30 years? Know what happens when you assume? 😂
Again, Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo. What’s the timeline there? Don’t need to be a rocket scientist using differential equations for the answer. I’m rusty, but I’m still sure it was less than 30 years. More facts. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZWJHRHNYazlmNTlxdmg3S3dFa294cUZDOVJaZ181eGc0R1YxYWlnT3RsR2VvbTc2SmhBV0RYbDFYY2dNSDBXbUdUWGdlSTJGa0xzZUJMeW1aZl84aVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaG1idkhzMmhwZ01HUEgwbkNSTndQYXVPQzUyT2g0X09fWmpHa0UtX25qTUFqZUdBYTJlTjJFTXN1am9jRjBNQ1hvc2dsb2JBYW9NV3JobnBpTGtHckZVWDYyTm1nVzdRc3FtTVh0ejBlYTdqc0dmNTNRdExQZDdPRndoTW9DRDljY05nMUNVOGZLRmtUTVdSNjN1VTVobnB6VUVMVG53bTdJZFdIUU9pRmtGU3FZVERyODNOdlZCSU9IR1pLRVhTOHJiZXBPVjNhckNHdVJKSDdER1NVZz09 |
SpaceX will be relieved to hear that it has no obligation to the people and organizations that have given it billions and billions of dollars, including companies like Fidelity, Sequoia and Google. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSHRNaEZtczNyWGhyR0RsbzNwaGZMXzNTdDhINE4tTmVFclhrdUpidVAxbUVHcm9oMlVvMEl2UWNoOW5JbzlkdXBSZmRNWWZNUk5xQ1RhbWN0WE9Ramc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSjBHRFlRcEZKZHE3RnkwZ0pSb0trdkRoYWdzNzR5U3gzTzdEV2NpbzAtSHA1bTlMdkItMXQtSG9Na3AtX0RhRHVGamNXMHdIQnMzQ2hMVl9OeGNIZVNRSzM5eVgtQjVBc3hPalVzWGJoWDNIOHFOcmpHM1FVZHF5WkVLdDl5d0MtQzV6dF84bldQdUg4RmdiU0dIQVdybzRrV3VDRy1NbmtVSGZDNS1IOWttU3NrQ3hBSnpkQTU4WnhIamJrc2t6 |
Not last I had seen. they keep reducing the expected launch payload weight downwards. if anyone can post anything to dispute that I'll happily delete my comments | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbEtRdkNQYmUybXlhdnoyNG5nNTJsUDNtbk9IVDVUQWZnMllzZVdrWWFnT251RkttTmlxZVY4UU1Qb1RKNGhnUHZlLW1ScTgwQmVjcDNIc2Jtdmp0eVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWTU4cFBjMUFJR20yUGNFenMxenlVckJUN3NGcm1yYjl4azZaRjJJSnQ1NU1hZWs4azdSOEdMWFNrMjhGWktkODRmU0ItNDBCT1BUaE9URjZqcXRrcXB4NUlfVDhuX1EtQnJEMzdWQ3ZZSUM3anVRczFrWHMwcEt2WnVob01McFEwenluRlhCcUh6ZkpGTi1hTmd5SndXWFNHNnZOY3ZoSjRDZFZ0dmZYd3pBZU50bklZeUV6ZElBc3JWcTZOMjNhLXhYRElpb0tmTVZZWkFqeHdlcGlXdz09 |
Are you intentionally obfuscating the difference in requirements for private and public companies? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNVUzOV92Ylp5eUtZV1dIWUlDNEh6d180aWZJaWxKSnZiRFBWRWxrSzRnQWNxc19aR0hleTY1dWw0TXRuV3duQmJiVFFMa0N6dzZCdkc1S1ZoQXBCMlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbEhxRzgxMzNuMTluRW5UMTFJWUlBcEFkVGROaEpfc3NncVpyVm9SOVRCcEJ4a0pqVkdOT3dNU1JjUXd6RGp2YzFEUldocDczNWNERG81Snhxd1VSdGlqZEJkQm43aUwzVFNObkhjOTd5LTVMVGpka0hURlc1MXN1MzVIUDhzLWJBWmtycjBiZHhBdU1SV0Q4V3l0SXA5bDVnaTJxSVVFWnNaOTVZMzlsNW9PYkxjbkhiWUlEX1k1cVJYRG14LXkx |
Why the fuck do you need mars? Take their money, put the guys in prison, use the money to fix the environment. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZUhNbl9teXo4a0s5UGhHa29yX0syRjZXT3ltSFkyY09uUTNJbTh5WTlmUkVlM053SXhYVzlBRlZKdnByRkY3S2FjaWJydzlZZFZQNjktVkpza0wxYXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLemhiY2s1d1gxTUpqbW9Oam4xUWhGaUhKTkdRQjNCWmR5cVB2c2tLZVpJT0dkTUdSb2tWeExuNUJ4UzRlMGFKNTRJdXJGZ2hRNlRYcFg1SE53S3RKY2dPalNRbzBlUlVMRFpxdnFCT0hOenR0VV9iekRxb2pMSGZ5Qlk5QXhRa0tHZnl3MjFLeGhMNTMzX1ltWmFjNWh0aVQ4YVZ2Z29LRlNVb1RtZXJxQi1JNzRITXZ3T2JvRFQ1TGlSSy1GOW53QXZXNDItcUxqSjBGaVhFNXFDc1Npdz09 |
SLS has cost $100 billion (over 10x Starship) and has been in development twice as long as Starship, as well as using parts from 40 years ago that are known to work (albeit dangerously) and not nearly as performant as Starships goals.
It’s like trying to make a new car that uses 1/10th energy and can carry 10x more than previous cars, and while you’re struggling to make 50km journeys, someone comes along with a 1980s car and does the 50km journey and claims all of your goals are a waste because they just did the 50km no problem. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaXU4Nmtwcmo2MVFFVVBDRmNKTV9McWhmWG9FY3BFdWpFSE5zQnpzbzdUdDRPLUtpZk02YXVadnd6R1VkMkdhU21LQmJDUHBBT2UxMUpaRTdnejhnZVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZ2pJZWEtSXhsSlIzT01KYjNkUmdFcHVBcGZuRExNaml1N0JMUlZyZGxhSEl4MjBwNDg3YUxjcEY2djZ1bVJWeV94dW5rUElJTF9FLURnSFJobHkwcng4clNXbEVrVC13MjZWemFCdTkwdXZncm1jXzh6MWhaZkNqZy1uVjVUMnl0dUhXODZESEN4M3hBTTV4WHhyUnFCb01YTnBXRjJrV0pQMEt1bGFveDYxUkNIdjl2NFplMWpKb2Q2RGY5WTQ2ekpBMll3OUo5N2ozZGQ1alVvV21mdz09 |
SLS is closer to $100 billion. $26 is only on the rocket itself, none of the infrastructure and planning and related tech. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSHpBNGt1R21BTmpJRWM4ZFk4UXl4Zzh4bEd3NmJ3UkNjbVhpcUNLN1N4X1BaVWJRZzlZMXpUTi12WGk1dG1LNEs1ck9HVHpxTXYtV1BYT2JWQW82aXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNHJOS3RxQzlQbEVrTHBxdXJheHptSmNlN2lBUjB1bjVYNWdlWDBUVW40M3NTSkJsWG1BYXVrR1lTdGtJSzM2R3VkYXJtQ0ROcVZ2T0JycFJ0akdFck5vajRwS1dDS09pNHZfcGxUdVV4S2Q5UHk0YTJMTzVpcUR1M2ZPQkZuTV9yN1BVZHFGTm42T0lMMVJBR3phYjZoaTYySEFfMmhBQU9BcVU0ZkotNXF4NkZsTmV5RFlvZkRFV2pzOV9OSV9vUUlCNEE3UWoxTjFhLWZPeDN1MlFOQT09 |
The first crewed failure of Starship is going to be a bad day for all of space flight.
Can easily see it result in switching to sending fully robotic crews commanded from the ground at the rate those are progressing | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYmlTQUpwRHQ0M2xVSGpnU0FnNUhaZlVMTUd2cUt5OGhEVWsycjIxa2FzbXp6dmFBUjBBeTlLSl9Ucnhab1FubGNjNWdfTHRLbjk4Sjh1Wjg3QzFPS1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLS1ZMMnhRNnQzdGxoUldUUWtiVm5IWjA3TEJTemY4eGEyUjV1VFJ1MDZFYmRnc0VDYXNQMkZOMnl5a0pkdEZLNDZvaTVSYktBX00tV0tGZ0h3MUJFNnE0MjNGOVMwU3NqblJDZ0VWaTd3OU80TVVPUXhfbkhySnd5SWlEMENKcnNXWllWZkFucWJIWnk1c05leVpEa0dXUDhGbkU5OU15T1F3UjlsczdtNXhXZEZLT1p2U3RHeXRzellMME0xY1hS |
If nasa blew up this many rockets everyone would be in an uproar accusing them of incompetence | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLR2ZCVjQzbkNpVU9DZHo2U3dNalpGRVlyd3B2WGMzSHkxb0xnRkdKRVI1YV9Kc04zeWdnQWtDbW5hWXg5VUNBUldkNGlvcXJlUkxzQklvaUJaSGFzOHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT0kyWXBKMzF3MG1laVlqM1pzaHVQRWxzTVhHRU1odWdpNERMa2REakdvQ3FydTVSWUx5TlIzQXJHbUdETU1IOWdldFNjUktfQWFyckd6LThUR01WSGFQanM4U3VoUm11S1M5dl81SUNnT0Uzay1xdEdqRU9IYXlBNFZkVG9CNEFMM0k4UlM0b3MzWVVBSGFhV1lCazFzODltSDZKN0ZMSk1NbXB1NklGNlg5UEpETnVkZjhtRE8tc3g0MVliVm9jSGcxQ0xTcng0cnM3TEc0cVBiMHVtUT09 |
What’s hilarious is that SLS is using 40 year old Space Shuttle engines (remember, the rocket that killed many people, yea that one) that have been sitting in a warehouse and is very likely to end with many deaths and NASA public perception tanking.
SLS will do that, not Starship. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTTBObnM4M3ZSOG5vcTRUcXRRVHhiOHQ1bV9UVnAtQ181VEk1a1pMdjRBSVpiRVB3dVR0dUJ4Q25HM01hYXg3WjBMNzFEOXJUVXV6Q3hQQ0N1c0hNeXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZFhPSGVMLWhWQ3dfVmNNWTJQb21qeWF0THlFa0FaWVR2dlZid0tUSFpwVkk5Y1g1UjhRMkY0TWk4T2Y4THFTSzFENnZOVVNUU0xUZllITjVfb2NmM0l4VWhsRmRzYjJCNFA1RjJFLWpwOFJZNEdzNHI3dGNaMHB3cVVJY0ZQQlNwdXZhUGRkc2hNaXQ2LW1TWnRPaHpPZXhlcUlXUVJwYUpYVm5GZFFlcWpOY25mdEgzU25OUkxRU2xGeDZRV0c1TXdDcm5MUmhZRV80Z1BRcXlkY2hTUT09 |
I never made a distinction between private and public companies. You did.
My argument was about shareholders and stakeholders, which exist for public and private companies, and even governments, NGOs and charities.
You're the one who for some reason brought up public vs private companies. Now do you have a point that actually addresses what I am saying or are you going to keep attacking straw men? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTlhEdmRfNWxxQ29vcTdUVkE2bzY3dE1iamdOMmxVUm5jOGJaRW1SM1N2TjVNMk40NFFXWF85X21GT3Yzc252Ri0tcmplNDBRVERtSThtWGRDTm5vNkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT3hhQl9GOEJGSmxKZlB1MnhoV3NIWEJHZXRzczJoeTlFSFVaWnN5QUpXNllzMWIzR3NxYTRSeWc4anhQc2p3eEJPYmlueVdESlJja2FHbTl1aGRMUEx6SFl0VmRQZ0FvR1hjZVpZV19uVVhEYWNaX0RMQ0ZJMWdrckVwOTQ4T0tyVlZYYW5aUGlRQ3U5dDU3X2xJYUdXMWVoX09WVzIzM19YZFZyTG5MTXB5TVRUNFBtWkVUMGNmUEtUQlhaY3E4 |
Even better is that SLS literally uses engines from Space Shuttle that have been sitting in warehouses for decades 😂 😂 SLS is 100% going to kill astronauts. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTjg3NzRvTk1RRm9ScXVtWU5HdDgyYmV2dDZKOGZqcTJYNjV4X3gxQnJzcVpXZXZJY0dqWDQ2QWNER0VhRmxjdjdhcTJtOE10NFNEaVVabVJBODdxTEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYzhINDVJRmZ5OTV6RFRjR2Jua3NqR2ZZT0Z1Yk1VN3BZV01SRnROUm5JMndRRERxSDZwaWV1ZE1pMzZWeWYwU2tHVFpZN1hteG44WTVraFZra1g1a3ItWTloc2tRSWxrTFc1aE00SEN0enl4Zldla1BBOG9NLTJwM2h1TGJBa2xoM2psUmppa0xsRUQxajc3bUpyTHJUVnBJZms3YnRhamtIZ1VIVkF5SUc5aEktdGd1alpiX1RRQkdBNHpJRVk3MVBwOTNnd00wX09WWWhZcHZTMUc1dz09 |
The shuttle failure modes were well known at the design stage and were accepted because it had unique requirements, which required unique design compromises. The shame is that these were military driven and were actually never even used. But such was the time of the Cold War. I would say that applies to the Columbia loss (and many other close calls where foam strikes damaged the heat tiles). The Challenger loss was more of an operational issue to me and management not operating the vehicle within the design parameters, than an actual design flaw.
Still, this was a super heavy launch vehicle that flew 135 times with 2 loss of vehicle and crew failures. Its first ever test flight was a success (granted with heavy damage to the orbiter) and was a manned flight. 98.5% success rate is a hell of a lot better than what Starship has shown so far. And I would like to add that just like the shuttle, Starship doesn’t have an abort mechanism that relies on dedicated abort rocket motors. The shuttle had some limited abort options relying on the orbiter engines, and Starship will probably be similar. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUWd4OEdDSG9WSzNaRVNNaWd3M3czanZSNEs0dnJna2VZT05pMFVTUF9sZ284TnRWSEZJYTFiNWU2elEyTXQ3Y1NscUkyTmlmb0NneXRrd3JaekJIWUNPTzdId0pIbEQ0cWxMVFZmNy10YjQ9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNVhWb2dQZWlubUpVN25udUV3aHpWMEc0SEl2QkpmMHl0YnRNNDFUM09jNXFpbkFha0MwXy1kN1c0ZFZXSnp4NGNaS1hIbDgzeURfT01BLXdwSnRqSmlVUE1xamRrbUR3eTdFU1dSbXNVZlNVMjhHNVJWenBhSU5zM2p5RnA2WG4tbnJmRU9pSGZMV2tfci1YTnBla1dWb2dZMWg1YzNsRWpETG14SmF5S2Y5QWhTNTJJREFIX0pONllRa0JyNGw2M3ltbHBHTlVKcGFDUF9HX2ZTZ1psUT09 |
Lmao vengeance is yours. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLajV2QkZ3OW9SdklQS3pNWmhjdUMzb0g4VHRhS05SVVhfM2xBOWpJMmZZb0ZiS2tUdGRVUTZGQm5wa2JJMlktWEVrT29Tc0R2Um03VUpBV2I2X0dfOGJDTWg2dFRqMHVvZnpzclZyeVFUaUk9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcUdJNFIyQnpPcFpRaDQyNWhOV1ZTY2FNR3NDaVZlVjdMZUhvNHZUdXRfVUZ0cXZ4MUI3ckFzamZMY2hUbDJTTkVrTFdyNTJpZHlqeWhMNWU3d1NPZ0VRbTJQQmlOaTBta25mcFBiemg5OWhodzFRYUJWWlFKSnFRSUFpNnJnM2JyYWFBczZfWXhjR1k1bWJBRVVvX0JkOGNNYWhYS2trVUhQRUlic0V0Z2pfdS1wUE9QUjhtcUllZ3JWT2hTYWg3bEdYTUo3Yi1rczFYb2R0ZkZDc0ZnZz09 |
What’s the evidence of him being a Nazi? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMVBiQXBTZDJPd2Zpb2pNZHNnc1JfN2dGZE53TTRhRHhqM3RlLVhrZ3VqV0w3a2pmajlFSk1VczV3SHBNdUFrSUlxbF93bkJKVGZGZE9wUWdkNFBTYmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQ0dNVnBWTmJaMzV3cVdrRlNlVlFRVV96US1aNTlGYjFhZ3JQcE1XcUMzWkI1SGJHUWduV2dVUG52QnRVb3JRU1FMSFJsSHQzdGFZakNnZE42cXdnajdhSnotNEFybFM0Z18tZVFYdkt0a1NOcF94S3pJZUo4dXQzVV96QWlORVRpWGRjYy0xaVJodW55alRWRkxnSkFOOFBGbTNpN1BCYllZdk55NlRtUUxlTUNNdEhOUDdYN2xyajFuWXN1ZWhMWDVsTEMtM1hVazZnOEdjUW5GSVNWUT09 |
I think the real world launch rate for 1 mission (fully refuelled and going) could easily be as low as 3 or 4 a year. And that represents something like 45 total launches a year.
The whole thing about multiple launches a day is classic Elon time, I don't remotely buy it happening.
Even mutliple a week means only about 12 flights a year. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbHJwd00wclNjWHhveWdtQ05MUk5OMWJSdGhJVXk5bWI5aTR0alRERVl5QXFqX0VzZHI5RnJzZ2tvYWFpdGdKbEt2dDRGZkdGd3VVYjZtcnBnQ0lJbVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUXJPdnJwMVBXR043MllHbFd6ZFRXQ1QyV2VJRHJOdUJ1cVRMVE9CekozdUF6SFdLUjFMSlk1RE95YmtTUlNwU3R1ekptUldfaVV4LUsydGdnTlBKV3FXOEdXcWo4QzdkN1pHOTlDUUlDbkRkdHo0bG5neWFJSVotN3FFbENHQWJMZm1aeDltdTBqaTY1Q2ZyZVpOZnYtX1VWRFVEb3dMZzYyMHMtdzl2RV9aWHZ5c3c1YkpWbmJfTkhIZHk1R2RE |
At your rate nobody is going to be launching a rocket from California in a decade.
Keep sending business to Texas and Florida please and thanks. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVlZMRVFVcnItRkIxRXN1YkhhTXdEOUxLYVAweFhGVkFjQ1FvVTF3Q09FNC1HOUNIcGxDOFdjMmVReGxGT3lQS1lob2Y2eEItMDBObGhZaDBuUVZtX2MxdXRadVF3MmRRcUFDUFAzZzJIZ009 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYjU1d3lCRnpBaHdVMXl2TXdIeEJRVFU4aGV1T2J5R29vLUl5cjN1MU5rXzl4M3hDa1h1RG1aOFZKamNvVldJQUg0U25yRHljNlFBalZpOVNJWUpzS3JoTmkzLWtlbVlzZDhBSGVmWXZhU2szRmpGRGR0RWZZak12OGhkTFBVdmxEaDVpRklXWHlWTzFWU3ZTcnZ1eFk0YkFOMFZoQUgtN1JFT25rZF9mZXBpOGpwQzBkY3A5U1pOTUxicS13c1V5a2U4NGV1aXBrU1d5d3F4NTRaRFl6UT09 |
Source on them blowing up dozens? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLLVY2WkVtdUZtS2VUVVkyamVaZjNNbEFpQWd2Q2dXRE45U3h6MTNOelgtSlBQQm9Zdjg2eXY0anlaVDY5cE91VEVRdFU4SGxQZ256THRXMzB0RjhSeGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMjlvTXdaejhTazVmTHJiN283LWd4LURwRTJIS3d6V2JGQzR2RW1ncFB0bXVjc3cyaGJ0VmtLODhySDhtbC1oaVNTSy1Lc2FmQ2hKWDlNRkRYZW1aTkgwUzdlbUYtd0RUYVNsUzl6THZ6VHZkOFZDeEd2Q3gtRUo0Rkl1ajZZZWlrVjlxeGJqa29PQmNVYk5wQWppbVU1OFdfN21kdVhnNVlBTkszRW5kdE9YTGxQbnF5VFpPQWpVbFhCaXNnbE5XY2xvNVJRc3d6UW9kYndsclZCS20wdz09 |
Elon and the shareholders would like results (and a ROI) now tho. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbHFkMmhhTUJFZFotMmxKTFF0SDJIbTJVSndiWTByVGRWNndLN00xUzR6cU9iWEt6dTc2QUo3OUNsTnRkN3NrcGlqalUyYVRBNmp1blJfYzVqUlZIN2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLa1NRMnZNUlVWakFqS3hucDJQS1N0NTFGaHVoY0VnU2ZYNkNtNUNFNVdOQktVSHlKeFJLX0Z4MVhkV3ZfZldSLW5kNzhjY1VrUGhtcGJlNnoyMXhhbzNudDNSNjJVWnBSRkZlT1plUHZXQ2pWbnAtLUFmTEwxVktZb1ZNT0w5dGZqcFgtVFpPanhQTTRWaFlsNmRpNHZKMGpIVDhPQ2lrQUl0WmJUUnB0YnJ0eGNJQkdUVlgwNXJ4N1ZNNElaWEx0b0pHYzB1bHE3S1ZaUjA2Z1lDN0ptUT09 |
I answer a post asking me that one single launch of a special 300t-starship w'd be equivalent to two serial 150t-starship launch. Arithmetically sure. But one 300t piece could have to be launched in one time, imagine for example, a nuclear engine, which welding lines could not be operated in space...
Anyway, progress requires always "more and more", and ability to satellize 150t is not a definitive goal, immediately after comes the wish to launch 300t, then 500t, 1000t, and so... Or, squarely, as Musk loves, break the house, and move on immediately to capacity of 10 000t! Let's be crazy! | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdmR6dWIweF9YUG5XLWdPUHpuV3U2TFJKVG4yNjFhZ2JiN3N3aHBMejYtQ042bGpraXgzT29kNGVybGRnLUxtN0hyZXU1MVJCSFNlZjhvS1lzdWhhaEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLc2VnTUJQUFdYRF9tLTFjRWJwdFljUG9mRDY2bjJrNkFUOFJHQ2NzdG5VMG1GVjR1QnB0enFGaFlBZUM4eWhJMFRoWnRxQ19uRTJNeVZ4d1ZqWkxKaHpkb2NkazBFSzZDSU1UUjd0cFkxdHJWdlpxMmVQRG82TTdKZExMZllaaGtleFlOTkVPU3FvQmNrdXpQR0VpVkVZRGRoNWFOYnRmTy1XaU92VkEwU1BmQ21OeTJvdEpLencwaFFibTcxQ09W |
Yep, methane combustion always produces significant NOx and can produce significant CO, and combustion in an uncontrolled fashion produces much higher NOx than in a typical industrial source where the combustion is carefully controlled to minimize NOx. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVllmcUlTc2V3elkxY2pUNXdKbnh6eWtndUlyUFVlTXlueERoU0ZXUzdfUmNfWXM4V3hWMk14SFpNTzMyMGQzdDYwUko0NnpuMHZ2R3VuZW1TY3hkaUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMC1Jb3pidmdkb2N3ZDFIbzJPY2VCUldMdHZEYkM1WlZqUnowUm5CTjlFZzc1M0JUVWhHRDh2aUN2VGxNVGJtdWlzWHhmYTJtX3E5YWo4dlVLYkc2ZExhYXBpVUlPTUwwV0tfNUVpM1NPcTBGenNORUVoeFRFc2JOaGRPaEJud0ttMElUcW9EZ1ZOaXN0U3V2ajNDZU1tdkR1bkNPYXdrYmVfbFZUcmRqRDM0WXlQM05KRVZlM1YxWGRydERJT3Jh |
Well it actually did cause problems on the first two integrated launches causing pretty similar failures to the N1 but later in flight.
which makes the Starship actually more impressive. I meant that SpaceX managed to solve the complex problem of the N1 and even return the first stage: they for some reason are having difficulty at what appears to be a way simpler problem. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcUx3ajJoUXdfSjBfaXJzNkppTDRvQ3dMVlg1TDJsYVVLY1Jpa0JfRkVJa0dBRERObFhla1hySG55emEyNVNmb25hMVZpMXo4NUJ5NFZmbXVfVy1DU2pGZkhOZHhmWWpOTDBoVUVxMUx5alU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWE94MWl4UGstRkVxWjQ4RUtEcEg1RVA1S1hlc3dTbWluWFVzUVFwd24yZFZCSGtleFJOeXdoSjdEakJsdk5VMkhvWXlPTTJJQmxaSGhBNWY1ZUFsUWl1STRBOVFFbDV3b1N3TVhLWHZyTURIU0hTWDJIYjZuZVpLSlZQczF2ckU2QkNWbng0WWNSY2JGd2FCUkxjaGZLMEl3XzJ6YmVTWG9oVFBwQVRzQ1JTVWtYRmpvbmlOVzBDUUZFUUdjSzhIZHZReWdXQzdVa3FtTFBnSEUwRnB4Zz09 |
"Ocula will provide critical data that informs future human and robotic missions and supports **national security** with intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance." - How did they manage to fit national security concerns into lunar imaging, LOL? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQUpqMjV1V3JFcV80ZV9PVlJpNURzM2NIenJIYjJKR0dhdWtVMXZQaHZQN2QxUXB1eEgybWFscFN5emNsSVFHTEpTejVQMzJPQ3M2RG1GSEl1dWpmR3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRVBZRFgyZjYzNzVTMlpuMVY0WjRDbF9UcHl2TzBaU1d4WWhudnJTeG1IOVoweDYwcm1qbVpIT0Q5bWxfcDkzbXRTZHJJY0JpQWdaN09ManBDWU1HdXo1bFZSd05HMmdkRjhHb21HWHZLRWY3TWh1Z1R3QnhfLVMxVHZuakdZTWw5c2lCcWxmc01IMTJtYVdUSVAzMVllZU0tSWRBWlU2R2NVTzNBOE15SVlKamtwdWR6Yzc4MWRFbHZrVTA4d0NoYUdnRWkwUjNMU3hjNlVKRGF0bWZyQT09 |
No they should not. Focus and time are the most limited and valuable assets. Focusing on something mediocre isn’t worthwhile for the talent at SpaceX. When Starship works it’ll change the course of humanity and be the beginning of our first real industry in space. They have the money to keep blowing up Starships thanks to revenue from Starlink. There’s no good reason to waste focus on a disposable upper stage system. Starship is too important. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNlRqeGFpelpnQWh1NlkxS1prTG1iQ0FmVkkxQzdLRWhDckg1Mmp3eVhfMFRjQWxkc2dhMHBURk9rLU4wajFFN1R3RWlvdzczaEoxUTl6WkhmS3VybFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZHhRZ3hGb2J4RlBiQjl2UUFoNHJKT3VWT195OXlBX3FaNVR2M2tleEpfUlpxNGk1RmJZNVA2cVpwX3FIYzNqenZHVlh5YzVocEZWVWRLVVAyMFB1TWNCZlVaV3B2SjhDWWlLenlrUE54bURNeDVIMUQxVjRBbEdtWTJTc09LQTV4MVF1VGlRUEpWT0V5OUJwN1Z2Yy1hdzNmX1Fmc3U3NGVGNExuUmROclZsSnlKUmRjV2EtcG5wOGZIMDVkZm11emxmSUdrY1huTF9iQm9mUG1aTjROZz09 |
Its space flight. Theres no guarantees ever. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUWpCOVhtbVVoenVfZXJHeWNxcjB4dzF5NGN1YVlrNExURzJiQUpsWDZieXFNdjEtMFVkYUFxemRmLXNRQkdHTUx6R0dCTXRyWHBWcEZmS18yNHNPOFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYWJ4bWJKRWhtMnN6RENreDdfQ2haZEJtV2NUV1JYbTRHdFlMRWwzVlJ3TFVRVDY5bDY5NnRLeldDNFI2WE5ISlVGS3BIOFg5ZWRwLUtCc0ZmYTNqWTZ2RzJ2MjlBSXNRZXpMSDJ5Q1p5NktfSmZCVUFDdFpVUDBTVnNrUVoxdUxPNEJLUXVYN2g4UTI0bGpuZzFTWWxzcTBMVGNmTVVSRlBOTnZ4R3VEQlNHaGVWai1fWmcyeTdrbEdnMEFRRzN6 |
Good question. Difference is, it will be privately-owned data, and could perhaps be custom in some way. With better resolution, 0.2 m per pixel (LRO has 0.5 m/pixel). Also UV camera for finding possible deposits of helium-3. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUlJ1UEplck14UzNEclZFdEJGczRkSGV2UXllSklZOG03dzdPWGRPUk5UazNZM0pvbDZSMlJaUDk5bWFZaTU2VHJ2eWxRTlowLVZHOGdVakVZVkUyOUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLemVOSzlGNmcyb0thV0xvSGZrQmM5UDMteFF5VTdyZ0o2SHRvUGtNbDFKYm90RnlGX2lCQkNDcWxGbWFXemZiV2ZjN0RjLVFKYUNjOWRCMHE2OVJBcmVWY25nVkVoS1FWQUp2UU9mV2xSR3dVa083MDJxUy1XWWJlMWh0UDZ0bjFiYjVKaXhBM0tTdGIxdUFXQjhqTmVQd3BoOFBOVHpNdXBTbkVQbm5weVZVWGVXSFNRVDFGWWFONXo2R3ZoSVQ0YWZIRURLNFZhNERyakFLVEx5TmVpdz09 |
Why every time SpaceX fucks up, a post such as this one is created here by a suspicious account? Go ride the Cybership. | r/blueorigin | comment | r/BlueOrigin | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRU1HaE5lbXo0c25MMUNUbkhPQlhvQW9LMXowZVZ6a0tnQlNBZ1lkX01sTkM3S1BzRTdiSnFHdVFPc05mWDJxZUhZdkM0N2QwanJWeTRzMTdYNEtlR0hoQTU5TnBCUWdpczVKMUZhajRNLVE9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLLUl2S3JPNkQ2dlhiYzZrb05BZ3VWWlVORmdSZEF2aURZcW5hb1hPU3NlYkpkNUVWTHVESmFyV0tNd2FPUFZWV1h3YVhjT1JuTVVoZC1wZm1NUVJ5cVl0OVlsYkNZS0kwTUVUS0kxLXRUaWp4bWhOZVJraWVZNGFpcjBHNmdWeTA2Y3VLZkphWkhNaU5neXhfNndXWm41SkVpLW1WTmROZi1lUDFaQW5PVlRnPQ== |
I'm reminded of the dropped tank incident that lead to Apollo 13 failing apart | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOFkwZWxsandLeTk1VlpyN2JZeUl4aUctRXZhN0dwdU04U3UyQ2tfQVRka2RvWjVKRVRBVDk2cHRRS0prQmc2elJiaE5VYmhXWWVTQi1GSkstWGt3Mnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLc3QzNk9fNHBTelV2R1ZFaWlPMGlFVFR1ZGJucW4xeEhGY3U4SXJ0MXhXLVlkVjdOU052QzZYWVhrUDN3N2tybjZ4OWI2eEltOWlPQUtWb3dwRzhsSUxHNWJoY1NOU1JLc3FZOThwdWRTVTFGUHhZM0FoQkplY1RFazV2QmJDay1XdlpCSnVlR05jeUk0X1ZCV2cwVXh4MG9VRTZaM1FxX0N6VTVpV3dub253U3hHeWZOODkxS25Ec0J0Y0lmUldK |
The disparity in numbers within this thread alone is hilarious to me. Feel free to link a source, hoss. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMVVLNUluc1dwdVJpYnFHZUxKUXkzNTNSRmlSYjlqVkY2SFU5MFhOLWpJMHRpQ3VNOVhBRjhOSndqNkZWYXV6ZU1yMkxKeDExVEZpU2E5M2R0TFEzNnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOWJSMFFfTTh3T0xfNVpXMDV5N3pualpLVHdOYzN4LWZDS05QcXoxaTJQOVZ5aFMzZkxCZGhkenB0NkJDTklBUTdlbzdKa0JXb2x4OGM2ZXlvb2Z5X3ZFOG81Y2NLNVJmMU1JbEhxRDZlMHoySGRnLW5VZnZKRHZ3TERWT2tsdDUyMkx3djJIeWJLdnBZRndpWVBYbG5Ba2NSVXhtNUZ0RGZla3kxOHdjVGY4TzJNbDRHZTZPclA0d3pKRmdGVmVUQkdrMHE2TjNRSnpGLVNkLWxPd1lidz09 |
THANK YOU. Had a boss who was all about “agile” this and “agile” that. He treated that term and philosophy like it was gospel. One day someone higher up than him finally called him out on it, in front of the whole team: “You act like “agile” is the only best way to do things. You realize that’s just one of many potentially successful approaches, right? There’s no proof your way is better than any other way, RIGHT?” You could have heard a pin drop, and boy did my boss get shy about proselytizing after that public shakedown. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUnBrSlYzS0tULUpIdDZDRGpKTWZCeThBZTdDSWNqVkdncGNScXlhOFU5VHRlaEpaVldHZ1liZUhkRlJjdVo4MkpQODY2cTVZeGV6aW9WY3pZenFkaVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLLWtjZVQ5S0VTVlJGUm1tZ0lGUldhYWZOcUlma3UyZFZETmw0TU5zTEQxOXdkT1h2aTFPWHlYdmhvNHlvYjVsMVBMQ1Nlb1F2dUU0d3BuT2p6Yk5NSEZKLXUySy0wNzdZdzdFM0NmTV9tdmQ3UVYyNDZCZDg5LU9KZ19Gc0ZtbzRFYjY5dDFvVDlLMU1nVzE4Y0tGdGdfMDEyazV4MUR3QndaVUhncWZ2MlhuNzhZRGFuNjRCUFd1XzAwYy0zWFJJV1Zza2pTTUowOC1DelpqNnBDLXhHdz09 |
No need to shout | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcHlOT3Z6N2xZdW5DYUlUa1FHYnNOclVjOVl1aFpFaHFkSm43dHFvRC1ISVZhM0FkVnprTmd4SERwMUNxMTRnQjhlemFPU3BOSUJlXzk4bEs5alBBN3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbldvM1NsY3hLQ2FHdEpnaDUtcTNpX3hKVENHUU9LNnFZaDJGM1NuaVNvVklCY2dkOEN0LW1XZ1lFdVUtVU13Vi11cXhPTEJYZjNWTjh0QmNkenBLZDd6bXF3cnNwV3dDUVRZR2VHZ2o3OGpHSzIxbkFaWlNLc3BoZGl6NUpqN0NPcDg1U0hzSDZRTTFDOWtNbnVDOERVZjRxRVNaeWxXVWN5bGJMaFdkeVh2S1VHb1BoLVktck1tU0I2X2piSGtF |
It's more like trying to make a car with an "exoskeleton" & instead gluing together a bunch of stainless steel panels that fall apart in the rain. Where have I seen that kind of craftsmanship & bullshit promise before? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLejVvM2Q2MGVaQlNZc1o3WXRXVzRRZkR5ckt0d3dtdFZNUU0wOXg5cnNQWk1PTzdCam9Td3o3ZF9OYVRCRGdYcE5kYjJQZkdyWnBqcnl5dUl4TzhDZGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLa3JFd3B4UmVBZEgtYXV0djZjZllhR09OOUZiQWh6Y29EVUVHbl9kczlQU01ST3ZRV0J4ZGkxWW13S1UtOGZtZGJIX1Roal9XUkVxemtlVTNrTVJubEFRZHBiV2tMcjdJRkpBUHowNXRtSm9WV0taenFMMWxhWWk4UUl2SkoxX2ZGVnJLeUpQR1NWQy1FQl8tMVd4eE1paUVSNnJxelNMc2JjTTFTZ1ZlaFpBTHVkUGVUWklGcGZoeEdCYUtjNzZQbTllZDg5U01OVXhiM285azNOd3Fkdz09 |
Yes I literally wrote a book on how to do this and you should try to gather evidence of the problem first before rushing to an MVP. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLM0IxR0U3WHluVkRVc2pYV2RuYk1NVGF2cVE2QXVOeVExZlVENlNVSlctRno4cWktV1RaaVNNQjhMSWFzeTZ3WXhXb2tNWWRUYjZLUTdIOEtGamY4cFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUWU2bFZhekNFRHozd0RwQ2tuMDM5LUdNYkZCRTA3WXJBNGlaeXBXcU1BMnhPeWNXSUxHR0hSYVRxaGFmamR1VGdpQTdaaTRiYjRIb3J5enZ3T294cFJxVVoxZ1FIR1hMMnc2RGZYUXdGWnIxeGtCY0Y2S0g5T2FzeUs0eGdLdWM2NWxQTEhRakV4U2xkWElRbFBYSXdEX0MwaW5yLTNaODgwVlFfSUxTNkthWXU2OGtpSHM1VlpBTmRoZFdFU0pPVVlpRms0LTEtd0RUVEs1bG11TTRRZz09 |
This is Version 13.42.98734 of the Starship Full Self Driving (Supervised) beta rocket, which SpaceX is selling seats for trips to Mars next year for certain. | r/nasa | comment | r/nasa | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVDhid0huSF9VWEZqX1dkRXNVeko5bEdLSjRSTVUzV0ctRXQtaFZzMlZpSEVCZm5xbVJWeUlGRVVNWm9ucGJVQ3ZNS1V5SFVxNEV5MHRBU0d5eW1lQmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdjRLX0RUYmx5VFhYUEJNYnVoU3kwSDNVOW9LWnFVVXp4RDF4Z3FSLUFERm9Oa1JDc3hTTl8zUU5Ib2tweXhlbm9rWjhoV1FicjRlbXZJYkJzVFNnUG51YWNPT1NncVA0VnNud0dsX05YSy1VMzhFdkNKN1pXVllCLTd0T0d0QjZvTHBtMlRaZFJhWG94eFNWbDFzXzg5SHl1WkZkVjQxMlpxb21DdERoQU00TDVBTEhMWFo0ZjRBLXBnblNnNDR2U1FPeG5yOTFZQV9VUGtJMDRpWlJVQT09 |
What is the nitrogen used for? | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMkZmbEpWTVg1b0czNlpwT2IzN2djQjZDcDUtYnptWEZ6ZUpYalJWTDg2OTRHY2xpLXRfdmpZVDRSWlZiVTRwaW8wRTN2ajVVNW9GVzIwb2dKV1FnR2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZUowX3o0NDNJSzg2N0M5RUM2OC1qTjVSQjY0dWI2TFZ0RFlWRzF0LTN1cmEzcmQ5MExEWV9EWnB0WXZTRlpJMkw1TE9VUlY5UTdkVEItTDN3S3JnSlB5Wi1EQ3RuRVdVUEFpcG1QaGxwazFaVl9OUFRCWWJ4SE5WWkJrZHZHM2FaM0hKR1Y3SDhpOTUtNFZJbEE4LVh1M1BKQ1VDRkVTdmpkb1BYSmpENVJra0Flc3U1a2pmRzRsVGFndVJFTHFs |
Not the same Rolls-Royce anymore though. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVkhZSU9malNmYTI4Wnp0UjJZZEd5cVQzaHBUMVRNM0YwWHNuVmpvUkJvSm9yMFBRZHFyX01fZlQ2amNreGxNX0Jhcm1vWm9KZnMwMGJocXJaTEozSEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeDdUcWJPUWkwZEZXenc2MUp1bVVzRFotQzd0U1hYcGNmaXU4VVJ2WkR2TEt5bXFRSXgxNzB1QThDVU5DVm5Ma1NHT3J5VzZTbXVqX0piQU1DdTVMZ2w0Ykhia0NSNUxFWGd1MXNneVkzbWxwMC1QM1FQQXU5ZlY4b1llc1AwbUJ4YUVnRUZWWXlDaElQTmNyN3B0dWtCeWNjTm5iOFlxSFBnWDV0LTZOOTRrY293VC1xSmZVVFhSM3hNZVV3czg2akUxM2FKazNLeGZ4SzE2YTd1VHUwQT09 |
Considering the type of scientific fucking magic that is going on here, literally rocket science, we can expect failures. Remember the Challenger and Columbia? Would you paint NASA with the same paint brush? Or would you accept that thing go wrong unfortunately. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLU3FFMHZONnJSNjgxV0Jkd1ZRLTFoUHVGRGtvaUJJemNSaFFwZ3JNQ3Q2T0E3SGNWanR6WDFYME9fMDdhdmU1R3BwSXdOc0l0TTRvdUNLR0JGMVBqUkItZ1JnZ1ctWHlHOHZPNVdZS19QWmM9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLc01WYWQ4bmE1UHhfcFBMcmdRZTV2c3RMOFNpOVU5bmp6R1FiM2Y0R21GbDl0VjliRDRkZ1lfTlF2YnFHc3RCV2w2UDZZVTdTMWkzaUdLaDVXZE0zLV81djNEci1EVkY0dkRsRWVFX2t3eTAxQzdiZGV4YmhVeEM5OUUxYnJfc01iME5PSG1yMXdIRERQOE1ZYV9BZm1EYWpSVWd1OG9ETTk1SmlXN0VTNkktM09zaGRTemZ2M2dvX1dnaTNLbGFjdVdYOUtNczFfOWZrZHF4VXpPalRCUT09 |
But there is clearly more engineering to do, you can't hand the last one (before this) to the technicians because it blew up in flight. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSHA5SDlpcGdpRVVfLXQ4OTFoR0JDaG50a0JhbkxFSFJnazVQVmctbW5kNDdYQ0R6REZSbWxZRXpsNWdka0xRRGY5TGVyX1o1bm1QVGQ0LXZFVC0yYjBKb0hnLUtoTU1Ib2ZpWTJvMlpIZnM9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZjMyVkVJdVhDVTdFQkZIVXJuZHZUcXJPRUx6Vl9kNWVtbXB3UnM5bXVlSnA2RlhPMWtuSjJtUGJXNy1YUXhzOHJmNE9yR0JDcmlScEpCdExUejVfVXdGc3lGTVRPWENZU2hmMTh5TXRIcEI5LTlWcmlIdjVHX2xpNkxGYmxlbXhPVjdoeFdTeXN4N3BCMWdwdGo3OWVfdmttQzIzejZ0QkR2RWRhTVIxbUFRSUFDRGQxQ1labC1oTlhtODdESmhtbVQzaWFPMm8yekxGU2xmUWM1ZFY1UT09 |
dope, just got a nasa sweater vest | r/nasa | comment | r/nasa | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLM3l4R0NfbnNVWnphX1F1eTJQckZhWnhsSnR0YUMzMUV0am1EWFhWUm5WX095bGp3dlVHX0l1VkR2YUp3YXdlckIwaEIydDluR1dieVVYUWVObDhNZ3pXbGxBRVhnUVpJMG9RODBKUnRMWVU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLXzRSTjJwMEdpN2FDelhmOVp2cWNOTWlGajZ1MEJpTW1Qb3dwYm9XWUdaUjU4cERWZVdnVjY3cWkzLW5oZG9MZ3JVRWlMc1lxNTh6ME54UnhPaW8tRC1pT1ZEQWRZa3dFQnBCV2VfVWxFa19fWktTSnhTTmstRF9yTE90RVdKOGtxRngybUpkRExLbE9EUENxU3RxOWREcGdmTG9DaDE1NXZtTHRad05UU0h4enJmN3AxWF9aX2tOX08zWDh5RGF3MWpMbjEzbVhwR0xXV2lzRzNVczNMUT09 |
So this is normal matter that was previously undetected, and unrelated to dark matter. Is that right? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRkZXNnFfd3ZSWWVFNmFjUW13ckVyZlh0SmZKc3c1SDctcUQ2Qjhua3RXcWpta2JtMmxfeTBjWDFrbkk2NERBc0Z2V2FHei1fVTNIRkprNVVaMGJJamc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbWZVb0duMnN1R3hnVVVWb0Uxa1U3cXhIdDdkMXNGV3pUYUs3akNBUU5ic212VW5FcVFSTzk3c2FDdFBoMDUtMTVkLXVWSDFkRHZaamhIQVp3UTNOS21DNFdWX0lxTTNsaGNIbmdoUjF6UEdnWWkzYmExMWlvdGxHenVnYUQ4X0xQdjJFYkE1UHdaLUU5aHR1TDlPZDQyZU1fa3ZCTG1qY3NUU0JYWVZ5UXNhN19CdzgzQ1M1YkZySHZueG1OeUtrNVM5Q3VOLTNVckxRVEl1UWdLN3JwZz09 |
I’m blanking on non-SpaceX rockets that have exploded due to a COPV - help me out? | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOF9UZWlQNkFHTGxueHZpWlZVVElTWGs5SG9Pc3RPVXhISS11LWZjb0N2Y0dyUWpGeXF2U0hUeW1FQXdxb1ByaHRUMENfelFpWEF0ZDBmMUlyQUx5Nnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUWt6RDZCbzZ2LW5Hd2ZCVmtJSWFibjVfQ0t3alp6bC1ULW9wandqUi03SmxPT25YcUR0UkdDNUFELUF6cDVUcGgxNDR2czRzUndkNERBcUd0NGtXanRQeFc3cVF6YUprU05Cc0Z4NGJPaWw3S0tQbXliNkNlRUZ2VWhQclJub0ZEYXpBbjhSRHV4T3dUWHJYNmQtS2xrY0ZNUlZHVi1hcDMyUEpVMUNPc05MSzhROHdHcm9XcEd1aEplNkJ4cjhS |
Hahahaha okay man, go with that. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbW9CUkxXMkdDdm5haExzcmtZdm1Gcmd0MzJuUFBtWjJYTWZTSFNNQjFlNHNRUmw1OVh4MEpaX3cxXy1td2RzUzhaeGEzQ3pmQlF3RExGOXFUMWp3UFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdlhnR2FqdjQ2aGRWVlpaVUhMXzA0WVdWaXk1bDJWZy1uMHh5cXFNOHg3UFUtOFo2cVVORWJibVBJVWZDd1V6ay0wVFZ0UlhkWGc3Um81eGZxZ0FBNG9WU3JZRWxQaVVnc0dadXQwbW9RTzc1MGU5WUttcG43eFNJbFYyM3prTFEwVFlwZGxPNXp6QWRVdmI3ampxMTY3QWwtMC1uT0d1NHkzNXBHdHlXOElpV3ZsU2s4eTlNVGNlMWhwLXdEdzBiWm1SYXBvTGI2OElrdEdCa1k3d0Z3QT09 |
>It just comes down to incentive structures and expectations of the stakeholders.
Your initial argument is based off of the structure of public companies. Shareholders of a private company have fewer rights and protections than those of a public company. The company has much greater flexibility of decision making. Also Elon Musk holds 79% of the company's voting control. So in no way does this come down to incentive structures.
I'm not attacking strawmen here. You just don't know what you are talking about. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcGdOdm9qb2E2aHliNkhKRmdhNS1VU0dkSVVaWENJLXprWHZBVGF2VlN0RU96X21tXzhtX09aZDcteFczNkpPdUtHQVk2YjlUSVVpeWJCNkZMaEd2bFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcnNIekdoNDJjczd3Y3lEZ2hmM0tLaXY3RTNaaDBiUUFCb1VpcUc4WWRORC1vSDhSTzhwbjZ2ck1ZQXplMXZzTHNPbHMtbjk3dXdzYmlNS0VOSC1JdVNlbDFsMFZsbGtaa0p1VGplNlA5Mi1vZXBFSThOSld6T0JSWlQ3MnBVUmVTbDhvVFdBUFhwSGJCMHJhUGQ2QkZjcTVLYjg0U1lJbnQ5ZHpYMEg3N013WkFyeVR0QlNoWXl5TElsNm9Edmdw |
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