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Culture, mission statements, motto’s need to be updated to say what you do and do what you say. Every company must pick 2 of 3 factors to live by: fast, good, cheap.
It can be good and fast but it’s not cheap.
It can be good and cheap but it wont be fast.
It can be cheap and fast and it wont be good.
Blue R&D started as good and fast (higher quality, and cost) eventually production came along and now wants to be cheap and fast(lower quality, higher rate), but currently they appear to be good and cheap(lower rate, higher quality). Your motto, and principles cant say one thing while leadership contradicts them with company goals and directives.
Leadership wants blue to go from cheap and good, to cheap and fast. “Gradatim Ferociter” needs to be retired and changed to “Progressum, non perfectionem, persequentes”(Chasing progress, not perfection)
this HAS to be preached from the top down and everyone has to back it for it to work. But… with cheap and fast REQUIRES simplification and MUST be achieved in order to be faster and lower in cost.
Google AI helped me with finding this:
"Chasing progress, not perfection" means focusing on continuous improvement and achieving goals, even with imperfections, rather than striving for unattainable ideal outcomes. This approach encourages a mindset of consistent effort and celebrating incremental wins, promoting sustained growth and development over perfectionism | r/blueorigin | comment | r/BlueOrigin | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZGt1eng2ME82c3RMSTg5M1ptaWZHdzQ3Sy0zOFhHZ3dFTFZBSGdxTnI4VkpMay00VTRtcEtYTGxuQ1NjS3hWNHpTVWd5eW5VUTBmSk8xU2dyREt0aWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLS3BzSDJFOWFMTk1ONHhSUGN2Yk03VC1tY3RIUW41aU42UDE2U1lGSU5zRnJzTVA2MmFZbTRIMjkyMG5hZDdOLTlseW1hVlUzblFJNzF5a1NxTjY0N2FLT1E5WnZPNkQ3eXlUQ240QWFCVkxCN2tUMjY0bGE2MkxOUHlkdzQwTUpSejJHdzNQaVV1cEdQbjRSYV8tQTdfWjZjdWcwUHdSWExLWFVTVExHX0lXY0Q5YVBIUU00WncwcFdfQ05FeDdX |
> Disrespecting me and Starship was a mistake.
Certainly military terminology. Everyone on twitter is self-aggrandizing to some degree. Likely this person will experience some pushback from management... | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLODFUdmxRSGJOM01INGRCc2xjakI3N084Z1hZQnJsLTN0VWYxa2J5b0RFWFkwZEhzYmVyX0NIZXpXUFdPcW9iS2NLanZ1alE1Q0tKcGwtbkpxdXFPZlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVWswNk9DQnEyNHRKVk5hVjRpSWZDMVQ3cjFIdDRRRjVMQmttSDllZ2dnR3hZeTZVRVczeHl2UEgtdWlSRVZKRWlHR3VGaTJaX0ZQU3dTczgya2h2cUtJWTRjOHhPOFdLUVoyU0ZVYU4tZlk0SVMzaDNycF92dXZhVlFBQ2FtWGw1YTR2R0F5RUtKMlFqdHVyYjZKYkJlRnIwMlV1U3BOck9YLUZOalFmLXZ5ckRIOXpEdng1UlRVNGlNcWp1d01X |
The Falcon 9 was developed for 300M. NASA estimated that it would cost them at least 3.5B. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTzhibVNfQkR3OFA0MHVmdDhpM2lPRmZxalNKcXBPRW00QlNHelR5akQwZXF5MGg5dmpwYS1YZ0lJSUdxY3VCcTdFT2Y1eDR4M0sxMW51M3VxVVgwZXVqcmRrV2FkWmpfdWtjOHU4ZXRtQUU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNW9XRy1nRG9DTXZPczNmUk01dzY1VFRMbjZNS2lZVkdNZ2VPZHZxbmR2Y3N5bERKRnl4anZnc0N0X3lXUTF2M0hWeG5aODVhVEhZX0F1ekJZVjhkaGhPRDlJbEsyOFRGc0doUDBEUkZ3WlhzOGhVdjVSb1ZmMmp1c3U5djU2bTJPbklFLVFGb1huZG40MnB1ZUlTWFlLY1BVRVEzVUd4WGxCUWZWWHhGdkp1bWs1c0xUdUN6dGVnVmhUb2dzaU1iTmJVRGVzQWtaTHJvTjBUdG4zTEVOZz09 |
I think a better example might be if you grab a heavy book, then a piece of paper, place the paper on top of the book and drop, and they both fall at the same speed. Unless I'm misunderstanding things, which is possible. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSWNmU195dGFPMVNKVm1qdHM5TlpHWmtxRkx1Q3BIWUJmZDNsdUxxOUh5SUVxYXFjd0tYN3BlR0RvSDhmS25TblFDY0dzUVRBOGxYZVpSMjlFbmRwbWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdVdzZ0ZTUjhwaGNEamNSTnhzdl9aZjJNVi16eTROQml3bGVSYU4tOEhZdWRvQnNqNTJETno0ZURZQXB3dk9MakdDVlNwcFBxRGRZQXVlU2E4YmVtQkhFWFhhS0ZBWF83d2I1WXA4UXV2d3dLS2VjWDhwZFE0MG13eVR2ak02ZS1OZHhidGptaDVkVFJRQmRWUGVLaGI2QTBIX1RnNVN5T01zMlZyTFp3RFlOd1BNUFpNSkJfSzdhZS1maXFNbmdrb29wdXQ3LUJla1Nmc3RUcTk4emJ4UT09 |
The writing was on the wall, just look at the three last test flights. SpaceX has MAJOR obvious problems with the Starship program, in particular the ship. I remember still being shouted down when I said this some time ago, but I hope it's becoming clear to even the fanboys now. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeDlTLXdwSXM3TE42eWtmXzlYYk51MGF5bHpjMl9GTUdidm9FTlFHQ19jaEdCRWVGYUF0eEU1YTNRcS1uMnk3NWRFNVRYQW9CT0Ita0NLNnRCZF9jUGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQmRFeVhfa3ZwbENldmZsamZFdWlJeGxYZVp3aEJER0gyNkdwOGFQR3N0Q0o2Yzh6Y2JmdjhfbFhYZW5Xa1dKLVdYaHQwQW1FNUFHaTdKT3RuMmNYU2Y1QUtlQUtUZHZjY0JIMWJqb2ZXZEVHSU5mQWxwUjhfZks0empQWnRZWHZVaWVsbWZnZ05abWtOUEJfZjF3eDRld3IxaUNlODBOSmJ6blpXYUFUWWRWemJtRXdIQy01QU1rSWY2cnRfWklCaGN0ekcxSGFkQmpjTUNwS2FucENrZz09 |
True. Which is why Musk cannot be blamed; it’s not like he had any part in Republicans taking power last year or anything. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLY2RNYUpiS2tqZnBTTXMyRktVUE5ZWDV0R2FYRk4taHo5Tzk1Y1JGYVNDSTBKcjZaM0dWdnBQN2hEVjQ1LTlUa3d0RmJJN1FfVTNlbldEYmRDQWxaMGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUWlwX1U3MG4tdGtFcllBa3N0QVZPaE44ODhsWFNCX0UwNEtKQ1BaNHd2SldGWDFHNkc4ZmRuSHRUdjRMSEtsX3c4eVZjVTM5MUVFRkFQNzE0Vm1lVEVxN3hNRDNoX2R1Q2VLUmNqdFUyZlk3Mm9iMmRCWUlaWmNTQ3ZDc3BfOEVpNlpnUzRyejQycGtkMDg5THUtTWhNS0dhc3hzblQ2NENNVUpETHd5QUZJaEJJZ2s4VFBTbU03eWJOd0F5S2N6 |
The only other major pad explosion AMOS-6 was also due to COPV.
> On 2 January 2017, SpaceX released an official statement indicating that the cause of the failure was a buckled liner in several of the Composite overwrapped pressure vessel (COPV) tanks, causing perforations that allowed liquid and/or solid oxygen to accumulate between the liner and the overwrap, which was ignited by friction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOS-6_(satellite)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170216160231/http://www.spacex.com/news/2016/09/01/anomaly-updates | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQzlIVHFqRGRYWFpIR29NVjlTRTNhY1NOU0pYeFk4eEhiaFA4WGtsdFdqTFZpbERCRVBza3hGOFFLcXdiOEpBRTd4dFcxdFFWMlF2aWNSODdieHN2NGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYjJqMUJ1RjZWVkNYM202TzItR3RhOEo4Z0U5TTVaYzZxLWhMUE1wZ3h5OU1ZNlJTaEJSWElJVFpvRnpQcURlMGNVdWp0aF9xc0FFbmpFbTRKTkF5RGpSaUMyZGE5SzBhYkkxTlp0M3pGVjBsX0dQZHRtbmJOa05HTzhnal96N1Zia0s0Q2FDZ1RRZ3lDdF95QjhEQ05USDVLd19MWDRhRjI2MjlsZnM3bUdfSXh0cm9pV1FIVElDMlU3M3piRWM1 |
Especially without lasers. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLU1FoYmhkWDZMMVhEd2c4QWRteUR0cVdyUXhQT1hlSjNEU1RZaDVhY1I1a3hrRG9FRU9WTUVMd1ktZnduU1VoUU1ZZ0l5dFhhdjZ0TmxMME5NUFVjU0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdDhKMHdaVlZDdkk5WkN5ZXJWakJfYUtsSEVfX2ZKT0FtdVExTGxrT0g2UkFra0VaZVNKQXo4WVJRdVpvUUI0alRJbnNTR3ItSkdTcElSQVlWUW1TOTJ6ZlNCbk5BbFdiYVZ1UlFsNkhuaFhBMDZjSTM0VkhkUWJOY1pDOU5uOUlXNG5aQWVwX1lTQ0VpWDFNdkJOSWw2aE9EeDh5WVhIZDhnbWVadFBWaUtzeTUzQThJbXNGcVdDbTlHZG5ORmR4R09sNnBzUHNFbkFFYm9OTXlnQl9UQT09 |
Sure. I don’t completely disagree, but the bad press is absolutely warranted if you’ve been following that shitshow from the beginning. Not that I’m directly following just what the press is saying…. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaHlkTE5VZ3ZNWXl1SjBhX2NUdFN5VGI4WDRGOWpzSXM4RE9udWcxZnJWYXFTVEtXQWU3X2RhWjFSbGl2WWxwT3B1RjBFYk5aOFIyY1o0SG9MRnZPeXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRG9YZlJsYjRFdUFWbWcxS1hQSVNBWE9QT0loTnNmU3FhalVLeTljUjE5R2dTRWZFYW1FVUViazBqeUNEV01UYUZHSTR0RXJVTnpiT3ZqanlwZFc1MXhLalpXZ3phRmFlRjU0QUFkNHAxMjJOd3ZRWl9vV3NVM29SaDJqN1JlWTJDbVZmc25RcFk5cEZFMW9YQVQ1bjRqbDFLU1hSRjktTEYxRndERWJ1TV9Pc1J4RW1KcVNwMEZDZXg5bS0tb0hC |
I never said anything about Musk. I only said that NASA would have been cut significantly under this administration regardless of private Space’s success or failure. Spaceflight barely matters to people during the best of times. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNmEyN2wyWGZNN3hEdW0tWE9WSTBBNkpKcTNvZzZZZHRHRFFNOUJILXBkTEVicEFQZE1kaThsTUkxa3RELS1zY3hVZlBMWWlGS3ZPNUNZRnhiaUdzclVtVkV1dkdlS091N25VUGV1NS1lNG89 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdW5lNjQ2T2gzeE04M0FaTkdMeHdmdFc0dnpSY2g4bERrV3o4UkpGU0lUSDFTSzZJWTZZbllIWjd6NkZvUW1ObTVvMEdZVVF3VzZmSERHdUlhdzNKamxnYlZHdlA0dHRkOHVSMUF6dW9iWklHWVg1eWh1V0xla1VhUkhoLVJvUC1VVkRRUS1GRkE1dGpNd2VneG1YbS1vUy1sU3Z2OTMwMTlyZFctb2tGZi1pZy1LLWlMdlZnamVzUlNaR3haZ1px |
Good.
Extinction is preferable to the worst of us establishing colonies off planet. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUFcwOF9hejIzU2JYcG5TRnRtclB2a1JuZkVncWdrUVQ5RUFoYlBmUC1mek9YT2xjZzVIT2YtN1NVaXhXSjBZMFNqUXA3R1JXTzB1Z081M3ZnZFZqRzRtTE01QmlwdDZ5TTBWZ0pMLTFMaG89 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSEZERnAtWmYxUFgtaWxhOXFEZXBfbWVWbnEteWFfeTlnN1BVbXRtOFQ1S1dIVzY5SW1HSVl6dThZQl9od3NuX2pTSmZ6WnNrVmhGTm9sNF9mdHJmeXdVb0pFVDZnZGg0X3lkYjd0dUExdHBDdUluLUgtaTVBUWYwalhnaGJIenBSanhuTWdtRElqY2hma2ktZnhUSGpRRmRnZGRhMklEalVIQXVMR3ZveTM3cGlCUTJpU0xfSjFWR1lQMkh4bmVBSDdMTHVoa0ZOVTl2UVpWNWI1NWhYdz09 |
25 years of existence. Blue was founded in 2000 | r/blueorigin | comment | r/BlueOrigin | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLY09xZF8yalpYbG9nVnBvSVlRMmJCaW5qS3E3dC1xeUszWFlhRWNlSnpwZ09yUUNmcVkzSlRBN3RONWx0LWJ5dDVuMS0wamRrdGFYZDU0NzQ2YXFDeHBXWFRCQUh2WWx5TnlUVnNCSmdoMjA9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLa3FfN2NMNFFKMmszdjhNeHg3Z3lJc2w2N0xxY1lBTmVIS0MtMDBEOXpiVi1Kd3NsSlhWdFg2UGpqUVBHOVEtYUNRMkhkMmxSaWFmMGFnSk44N2JiQmlXaC13RzhUdEJ5Q2ZVRlFTOTBWTGViV3otRXdwalNfRGRMNWdzdzRqeEhJTFJwalVYN1hvTUNLeXktNmNHMjQyM0pOdVc4Q1IxOWlWb3NFQ2c1ZHBXZ2NGdzN2ckR4UGRmVzdTenczUXg3 |
It was wasn't so much whether it was aerospace grade but whether it was rated for cryogenic temperatures. Martensitic stainless steel cracks at cryogenic temperatures and no amount of derating will make it safe across all units. Austenitic stainless gets stronger at cryogenic temperatures and does not crack.
Guess which grade they had specified for the rod ends?! | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWFdkT0E1S0JNT3dtVmdRRTJSRWhlU2xvOGp5UGpoNGVrWGJHMmZRMGhiVC1jQ0liWURhSzVxWmRVNTZudVJZMFR1NHgxUW1WX010ZEhJbVFhdVdiWEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLV1NuNzBJZ2xNX1NoX1gtb3h3R2UxNXBIbUktdnhKN21sam5FTFU1STBrN3VFSEE3djlpMkdxeV9sVHViZG5aa050bnl4LW9rMXFBYjlSaTZLemRaQ1F1LVhVOU4wMWVWUzFELTFORndUUGdIcFdwTzUtRzJnQmlHWFZ4MTdaekxBdTk2bXk4azRsaGVqRjRNRnVWWTFlN21MeEJHRmtGMVlVZlp3Smp6MFJNZzQxWnNEYWlzXzNqc0FOQWlUdk8xdE1XMTdvcUJvS3UydTZpTnNKN1dXUT09 |
The reduction is nice, but in a major space project launch costs are small change compared to those of the payload. When you build a $3 to 4 billion satellite, or an even more expensive space station module/habitat, launch costs are almost an afterthought. Reliability is what's important (insured or not, you don't want to lose an expensive piece of hardware due to a rickety rocket). Another consideration is orbital insertion accuracy (JWST is a prime example where pinpoint accuracy extended service life). So simply reducing costs does not trigger a space boom. | r/nasa | comment | r/nasa | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNDBadVVWQUZoZ2tXWmFsTGhFaTNaamJwRmdtbTFRQ2lhYnZpbHJZM2k1NC12WHNlTV9UeWJzeWNQcTRuN2lxXzhLZHlubThPS0pxdUpFSEtZZzM4cFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWm0xR01LbGlMWnN1SjFnRnl3UTNfb094TjgtLS1Lbm1lY3BJTE5OX2M0ZkdFU1NkcHFxLVQ3aWtjaHM4Xzk0S1V5YVg4MklDeVV4YlRlcjhlWkM5bU40eHE1VFJoWFdnbnFpcGRORXRpc1lfQ3dtZzA1NHgybTRYckY0OF84SktWQVNUbGtMVzAwclVlX2NYTHc0azBGQXJZb0hnT1U3TEh5anBZbEs0Y3FjOGZSVmRqZC1sMUM1VE9LTmp5UFd1d1hWVGEwV0s2bFpHaDNTS2x1WXluQT09 |
And water :) | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLS3gyYVhNLXRqWVlkOUdjMWgtSFpwbFhDb2tDUXpkakJzdk5kRC1wRGh6S1Y1ZXBObXVSdDQyVEVXZmw0Yk1ydEhmaXBSc2VveFl0VUVIRmpMSVRkN0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLd3FWV1VETUUtVXg1cExXNmM3VFpJWi1nRmVmSGRXZlphSF9fSU1mTFBfdWRxQjFyTkdPa0ZJV184NW5uTTF6amlMRTRzUzFGVWxldzlaYUVUZTNVc0xXZEZIMkN2OUExRGJBMkp6UmRIQzN6eDVZUEFWRTU4Wm5zY29UNThEQWVmX2tkMkJCODZleFVQQzZXUnpXY0RWbVVHMEpSSS1YSTlKYVpDUDk3NTdDWDA5a053VnFMQ3JwQXdXVVR2akE5 |
I hope it exploded outside the environment. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT3VCamFScnBaZ3pKOHN3bmJObVZtSDNQamxYUnZXUXJOSS1NUkROVXp4MzRRSHJaTUdZajFJN0tUS1ltYjZVNDRKdGd5dmxGbUljTWkxaFRwTTZHbUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMnFGODItRlRqQTRoRmx3S2xsaTg4b3VVRjdfQU5jaU83eU1rSGdhTEpoaFk0cmdfQVpmelNVOWtsV0VocnRORU03MklHYUw1OExsbU5URVlvLUlYaXVJaElJeGdFdjJOVjZrS1lCSzJIRnl0N0pyVHlMcDFDcVV5NTNlQ2MzQVNmcTFPZG1UMGh3bUxzSzkwT1REMFM1QkpUZWVBOUtNVEpKVi0zRVVLTmNwQkRIbDNLOTl5TVZQRk12Q2xWYjkw |
Yes, but I was asking about “non-SpaceX rockets”. Have there been any? | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaUFVa1AyUkNCM2wzU3o1VzZKOHdLdUpjaFVQb2hRVXhTWlRLZUdic0dpcU9xTmh1UVE5Ni1LMzJHeDM5TVZ3ZFlWa1I2cGo3aVJibE83VHJYVlVhSXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMVdfd2dkLUpzYjRyY1N0eUV0ZjJrcGhSRHM5eThDTF9XWHpzVzRTdTFpVkVxQ1J0cHQ5MU5UWldsWFZISjdLQlZBcmt6Y0xTamx0OS0xN3FVWFBSbEN5OTJ5aVlmMlRWWXVObjU2NE05WFpRQl9uZXhMMnN5bERZUHk4SVlDTUl3Ymd1ZWNsdUJ1dFdQMkswTzlYMnYtUWFNOUdsb2tUM0gwNFczSDA0LXgtbHJOd2pLaFM1eFVXU0RSTEtDWTZL |
Current estimates from both external and internal sources place a fully expended V2/V1 (ship/booster) stack at around $100M.
For flight 9, they disposed of B14, which had previously flown flight 7; so its estimated cost was somewhere around $30-40M. We also know they had around 50 tonnes of simulator Starlink satellites on flight 7, and were claiming that it was a partial load to avoid wasting material.
Assuming they can get a disposable ship flying, they are already competing with non-F9 launch vehicles. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTG1xMGJDNThMVVhrYlVDeEgteTZyREl4bUFVV0JtUXlZZGtVYnh4NFZqNGJuOUZvOWpvX2x6NXRuTzZTLVFlODd6WUFXZzEyaUpsTS1YYy0wbklVclN2X1d0NFFZRUNiYnJoX2s3UEtWOFU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVFF5SWV5T0Fsc0NndE4wY3hoeVBWUUtVbWVaaUhnQkNoNkRRdURRYjU5bHJ2ZzNhSlJnbEFBUnlQaWxTVFAtVXlfb1Y1OC13ZUIwT2V0VUdwQ2gyVlExQ0JrRDVIeUFRT1F0UWsxNGVTb0VDeWpESWgzWWdzemNWdVFZWENrTG5iT2Z5OER4Q2dGR1I2Y0dkNERHc1NlMGdVRlpyb3MzRnNiYWwwblVKSTE5eHJWTzRFbHFmS3N2bHRGdV9tWFlqOU9LOXNwVXIySTV0NVpubnUwdG1tZz09 |
Sounds like a perfect destination for Musk, Bezos, and Zuck. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUzNfSDBfU2h4Sjl4S1J5ejhLcWpsNnZQUkpKaTFJTzRMZl9HNWRDLVhjdGJ0MFRia1p3b1lrSmNmM0J4dnFKN3V2STdNS09PblRHWTdnU2lnOWlQR0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNV9lNEhWR3NkODNGeC1RbW5wVEZGbTV0OTNZR2g4X29xMmtPMlRhLS1fa1lNU1BPX3dkQ2J5T1JkQTN1Y1FXRHlncEpweWRZb1VvblliaDYzU3U5MkIxcTlEZGJvM3NHeENUNW5LR3c2bGNTTEhqVzR0anVYMGVkNzk0WExKbGwtWXhOVktWOTlkWDJ1RElIZGZrSW1TdF9mLTFDaVc0UUVYTHRWX2F6M3lVbkZTU3F0MGhYR1FwWVMwQTZ5R3R3UjJ2ZnRhdnZ5Z2dxV3VhUVVkeDhrZz09 |
Yes, maybe my previous comment wasn't clear enough. My intention was to say that most of the risky tests I remember of the Falcon 9 were done after the rockets already earned their money. The "destructive tests" of the Falcon 1 and the Starship (so far) however are not byproducts of otherwise successful missions. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcmFYcDd6cmNvaGtLcEszWlY1ZUNxLUw5OUVvaFdVcnduNm96dldPZ3d2ZzFPZkJndW9mdW4wRUtUV0FILVBUYXc2NG8xN0NsaTJwUjRMRXBMMlByTGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLLVJhZFBwYVdjMS0xaE9pU3RjVlpvWS1wUG9PYUdDZ2ZPODBFNW1WRm84djZyV3VuZ2s1T0tMZjYydVdBVXgySVBLWV9qSDJjY0RDTWZnTUdBOEVOVk5FVWRXc2t2MWhHa01Sa2RRMFJ3T2syRHNGOGJlbWpBVTFSX3k3QVpWWG5TVGFZaEo2aW5hVXV1WVhfUXFMY0xsYVQ2LUk2cVk4SHE1bFhjcVJtZC1BbHduSFVaYlpKNTJEdWNpUFlzVEVFamREQ0w4OGpXRW1BN2c5VzF6cVgwUT09 |
Hmm, does this mean that COPVs could potentially be used as flight termination systems? That's one less part! | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVnFJNFVvY2RiSEg3SnZnVU85MGNXSTZMMkVRN2xUbEtRVHR4TTRsRGJtSHU0M3hCMXRoVTlnSC1MdldaVE0yU0N3RzVTcHM2Vm8ybWRCSXFDMWVCaEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcW10RlRpOENPT1VvN2h1cWtacUJxdFlvUlhKM1l2bHQxZ1dWdmIwMWVhVnNJMUVzQWQwRnF4THFlR2V6TUQ1X2lOeU5xSHAtSTRoN3BzMUZWY0ZKd3Q2Z2FJYkJxbG1lbkh3YzZEeEdkai1leC1sUTZSX1pFdTdRQWZoOTRYdDRwOG9YY1hsRWgtYXNfNkxGZm1saUtPU2FQRE0ydTUydE5rRHhiaVpHck5TWUhLYURlTmVPV2RvQ0lZeUhSQUxKQ1JpT3pYWHpPT3ZTRFBEYU9lLTNMUT09 |
Main difference is that, at that point, Falcon 9 already was a proven launch system with 20+ successful launches to orbit. I would hesitate to deem starship to be any level of successful yet, considering the failure to reach and return from orbit with several years of delays. | r/nasa | comment | r/nasa | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSVM1UkRBN2FtMHBwOWVyR01ta3dTekdOSi1iV0xDZ3VSMHZxUnR1b1VPTzVIYXhsdzg4TmlRc2FDVmtkbEstbVhDTnRwUk90dEpiMVo2RERYdFh6Znc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLanh4MU5WRlQ4SzJta3pxVE45ZGprdzRFTlEzUHh6ZndIZVV4T1BrMHZkZC1zMDJlM2l3cDZqb09yS2hhck01TVRXVVpzSElmcWJkY0lVSDNhUE50WXM4RC1PUE5hNXJZdzU1TENIYWFMVjZ6ejhmcGFmYWU3aWNOTk1JRFQxSFdTSm1yTldUZEUtRDh3eU5Ndl9wcjk5cDFfX1BuQUNydGJGc3NWTk9SMG9zZ3cybHF3bVo1aXJxcnA5M2x4MVNscDFNOHVEcjZPTHBjM01DZHkxNHQxUT09 |
I imagine that going forward we will see dedicated fuel depot in space so one mission will only have to refuel once. The depot itself will probably require a lot of refueling flights. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRDdMS29jemhNQjhBSzRHbk5XcHp4YmxZUWZNbHRSQ1kydW1QZC02R2haLUdsaE9weC1XdEFDdVVXR3R1TUl2SXZaMkZDWVJKbEdzT3ZwVDlGQ3lwN0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUThwRUFEbHMwenJ2YnhVbzhyWDhROHAwa2RYdTlrM1lNdFRlcHZpUU1seUlvTGpYVTBlUWNhVTZBc3JhRi1QbmdjN3RRRUlISjVxZTh2dVk5Z1lFaUt6aXRGYzFZZGIwUXktM1l6LW96amtBdHNiQjNTMGxuQS1MX2xYY1J2UnZxQjZuS0VnNnhsMWJsMDNtTU00b0R5c2JXeGg5QzhYR0tVb1IwaVo5OE1Lbk9iS0JpQ1hNSE8weVdWbUpiM3U5akdFcktxYUxNUjEwaEo4UlJtbm9yZz09 |
Lol. Lmao even. You really have just completely disassociated from reality at this point havent you. Jesus fucking wept. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZHNLQUVsM0ZOeGtXOWtSTnJlSzdaYmNvSC10VkdqRnBLZzZyU0xPblpFNXVhcllqdVEybDFqTWJqOHJnc1NuSU4tX1VvVXdjNW9tNlcxMThSbHJBckE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdDZyZDYwZE9jN3hfNEZoUFQxNm1HWnFfc2dnSWVDVjUzNkZqTzR6OGNLMEtHY09XQUh0X3d1RjVqdVBNRmszcWlfSmMxVmU4enE0a2lLZkhUNDFfTXZHbXBfZGFsbUYtSllYcmZoaEROeFBZcDBTMjFtZDVjbEtlbmdSeVNsVnhwOXhaNmg5RFAxS0dSVGQtcmJ0dXR0SG5NZG5BUVBEc3dYWUZwSUl1bHNYcDhYUUhGMVpNbWJ1NUk2aHVlY1VmRl9HUzdVRVp5RzJRWUNkMEt1RkQ4Zz09 |
I'm thinking they will have fuel depot in space so one mission won't need multiple refuels. The depot itself might need multiple refuels. I guess that would need a dedicated vehicle just for transporting fuel. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNnVabGtKZU1zMzdaS0VkUjRjSFJ1NGI2NER0dnlfX1BySUlzUmN3cWxscjFtR1E5dTNlanM2Mmw0S01JNmlmRVRlcVZZV1ZIdldVUG1mVGJHdHNkRVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTF91YlF3N0pQZ3dwV29Bd1Y2OGFjUEFPTzNMYnRvbXplSDBWcjc5ZGFpd0F3dzNFRXg3TUNMNG40RzhqTGdqQmh2Z1NTOVZCQi0tdzhIOExyQ0lIWTFpblRQT0xab1QxdHBMQmlzOVFRLVcwMHpIM0p5ai1MMkl6MkJ5OFI5UzVhTHlHa3pQRXNVUGx4YWlpZ2llU05fSmJXc0EtUkZ4MU5YUXp4b2E5MUZWWkFUNkNuQ0E2b3p4MUMzMHVIMC0teFNBeDlpZDZySGN1SlZjS0YzUGl6UT09 |
"Do not break things in prod" feels like the kind of thing that is now stamped on every new hire by a traumatized senior engineer whos had to fix one too many issues | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTEVSLWstZHdid2s1aDNqSU1RSmlya1ZTSU5VVHRfTTRvZDNCTXRCMlEzU0UzbzNuY21SUTA0c3hsMUVndlpVcnNON1VNdnNyOEx5TnBsdkJwS3RxSExVMk41aklrWWtxdGxUd0ZkMWl6OWM9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWFg4TnoxTWhmTkVuX0dDZ05RZWQxeUw5d1dVX1hOeTRvSmo3MWZVSHZlUFk3Z2Q3a0xOeHJUS3IwdnpONkM3Z0NTOG84YURxSkRmYVk3NElxQndDd3NlRVQwNEhDY3BVWW85RGV1ZTN6WV9tMEoyM1hMNXZ1TWVZZzFSQ3N5LURaSERSQkVjSFpqNkhLUm4xNEk1R0haNGdqTnJrNjBTc19OMXFNYnpyUVVobGF0UTU3Ui1xY3NsYmZrU3hsYVJHeWJKbUtWX21WODZPb1NxdmRWWTFiUT09 |
Even in SV fail fast is meant as "figure out if this wont work quickly and pivot". Or, it did until people decided ethics didnt matter in tech and this (+ move fast and break things) sounded like a slogan that justified their amoral "break everything for progress and a dollar" approach. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLczhxeTNybGRwMEJudldmNXlyLTJ4TFloQV9hb3pzMnBTNTM0YUVtOEhBbExXYk9BSEZVUF8wQTUzSnZnRmp3cU4xYkc3ajlMV1BNTmsyamVvdjNCQjNfbTZDSlhYcVJjY3l1OWt2eldnZm89 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLd2tvVDVLQWJZQ1ZSNzRybzNKNGNNRktGU3RWSlhnYkxWTENVSGdrOWY2WnJ6RU91dWkyT0I4d1I5TWhZRS1qMW93SW5yeUdpdDJOYUdROW1ockpPZ2hvWjJabXRDODJSZlZKN2NMQl9ZNGVXTy1sTXlRb0RFdjVvTUFiS1JLa3JibGQ1TG1xcTR1RGN4dzgzTmZmdURiamdnd0t6Z0E5cWZKUksyOThGcFpsOWY0ejJSRE96U0ZtRm43c0NhWWg3TVVkTkdlOVE0N3AxQkVNdUIwVkQ0UT09 |
No.
Ship has different hold down clamps and different QDs than present for Pad 1 and 2. By the time a temporary SQD and hold down assembly could be installed, they would’ve already been able to repair and re-cert Massey’s. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLenkyR0l0ZUpUbnE2am1TZ001RkJSampRdmNzMEJNRVdTMGxmUUZHeE11R3ZGcnQwLUN5QWpDVjZkZ293RXBUd3RXTmlvZGUyeV9HZktfd2xKSVFQZ291RWRuMDdsUVJNdEJIMkRTQzZsYW89 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdFpTUXBndFB0VVpCRW5VQ2dSdHk4ZnI4YUY4U1YtYTBLdWNjMGliaFV3MGRfeWltbWJhUE1PMXlHZU5ZM0ZOSlZ2NkpReFh0VlYxMXl2T2JoWFRHd1ZudXNSb1NEai16Rmc4cEZwaV9ERkNXeDhjZktZQmExT1UwSWk5MkkxSnB2THBtSm1NakNEMWdCNEF5c3EzS2g1a09TQUg1WlduSndaRGRsLUN4WE5RSWlBMUw3MDlJNzNiTkQwQXZfX2RD |
Thanks to Interstellar Gateway, here's a far clearer image of the damage in and around the flame trench at Massey's:
https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1935871243179180497
Also, here's another before/after image from The Space Engineer which uses imagery from RGV and WAI:
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1935801053712195754
It's very obvious that the angle of the tanks changes in the 'after' photo; however they haven't tipped due to the blast, it's just that the two photos weren't taken from the same angle. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMFl6S19GejNub2Z4VmlpejdQLWtVTEwxU0hqLTdhakE1VW5JY2QwS19peEliZjVOVmRYT1phMUdPSks2bGVXQl9ZajNRMFY1OGxyaWdRbTRDelBrS2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT1NCbnJyOHE4OVV1aUVRaDFxNjk4OTZISDVORHJiQnV1SHdYSlJTeWU1X2VMVkc0RGc4OW5PYk1RZDNMTWNySlBFNllCYUtPZlpCaGVtU2VKX3hZeHNQT1BuQ0ROOE1IQjJ1TTZOaXUwWFFGZkYwc01kTGxncG4yMVNvQ2N0SXlxVmtTRnhqQWY2QVBSLVk5aFVWWlFaRk4wOEt4X0VKbFlnS1NzU054a3ltWHZCdUpJRzQ4N1IzMjVaV01WZnll |
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
|-------|---------|---|
|[COPV](/r/SpaceX/comments/1lftvkk/stub/mys4fsa "Last usage")|[Composite Overwrapped Pressure Vessel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_overwrapped_pressure_vessel)|
|[QD](/r/SpaceX/comments/1lftvkk/stub/myru5el "Last usage")|Quick-Disconnect|
|Jargon|Definition|
|-------|---------|---|
|[autogenous](/r/SpaceX/comments/1lftvkk/stub/mys1w67 "Last usage")|(Of a propellant tank) Pressurising the tank using boil-off of the contents, instead of a separate gas like helium|
|[iron waffle](/r/SpaceX/comments/1lftvkk/stub/mys3ttf "Last usage")|Compact "waffle-iron" aerodynamic control surface, acts as a wing without needing to be as large; also, "grid fin"|
|[methalox](/r/SpaceX/comments/1lftvkk/stub/myr9xu9 "Last usage")|Portmanteau: methane fuel, liquid oxygen oxidizer|
|Event|Date|Description|
|-------|---------|---|
|[CRS-7](/r/SpaceX/comments/1lftvkk/stub/mys4fsa "Last usage")|2015-06-28|F9-020 v1.1, ~~Dragon cargo~~ Launch failure due to second-stage outgassing|
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Launch tower is fine. Test stand not so much. These are 2 different locations. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSmZTejgtbHh1a3N3dGdyXzNXY2ZCWmExUFZBV2NEM0JHMHdSd1A3WFNCUV9TbUNhRGRqWkJubWNZZ2dZSEpUUldEeG5JSDBydUF2RmkwN3Q1cmhVV2VrYjlLMHJEUEJZWGdhbkJYUmV5YWs9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZl9qdllSRHNVcFk2UE1US3NfYk1iaHZXZzlyelJuN21hNEEyNW51TUNJSnFNR2RqRWtKMnBvQmNldWdNN1lzQ0JHZWp2TUhJZk1BaHBVQkZEV0hQcnFpQXdXTHpYa0FUaE9kSkFQX19oTkFpdFRpdHhzdmk0MUNUazFDMmp5X2ZxdUpXRkdrUk1uQ1hKMm5kUXhqc29Ob1d5X2puYnBRVFJ1Ymt5VUtCTEM2S25SNG9NcDhHUHg4R1NBYjZROUJC |
Thanks to Interstellar Gateway, here's a far clearer image of the damage in and around the flame trench at Massey's:
https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1935871243179180497 | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNnJZNHNqWGhLODJIdC1hQVFjaXdqSnBTMk1wMGV2V3pRWnZDaDJ3eWRieFFLX2dEREMyb1lvOHQwenVGdHJ1WHQ5QnpVU0JDYjRrTHlIVzNTbGl6R1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeVliejhsUkZsRmNGVldfbEdVaWJITDRzQzJ0aUM2YU5hbUpTaF9RVmdqdUJKQllUY00zMElqRV9iLTVrcTkxaHBDQ1hoeW4yQjBneEtUSFdZZUxWLVk4QWw3OTFMYUdzaFoyWDZGRDdDWlRsZnFnN19IelJoSzZQWllYUnZyS3Y2T1dYNG5qVnZud0VLdHYzNm8yYi1xS3ROQUR5TVBQZkV2QzBpWmVrT3NUQlIzTENiSDB6X013cy1FZDNXMkgzdkNfdFYxaXNzM2dXY21faFU1S0U3dz09 |
Thanks to Interstellar Gateway, here's a far clearer image of the damage in and around the flame trench at Massey's:
https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1935871243179180497 | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSEZwNDlmaW5LdUtZS0pLdkt4VUFMaGZrSUxfNHVobDY2OEp5RG5DRFdnWGxlWlJ4TGlhMUJfMFR3cWU4N2JzOUc0YjZZQVA0XzNwU3FaYUpyaGhMcUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcUlab0k1WDF4ejVQM1ZmTm9aUUlnREFhRTZTS2VkUFNqQ1lxbUUzVjhYMDBtVUZ1d1NKN21ZSUhORHFfU3hjMk9keUQzZWIzTVJ2VldOVzVHSHd4M2lseWxOMTR1ZDZQQ1pfOXBzcWczbTFtNWNmczE1TnZ1ZEVkUWxSWVRockMxSGx0eGhKMVdhQnVlbDMzSFlmcEhxcUx6Qld2WEp5NXdqY25qMldWdlR5bFY3aGt4RWtMczZ0RTEwQ2x1TEtw |
No, it spent over double that by now. An employee leaked in late 2022 that they crossed 16 billion. We know from public filings that they're spending 2 billion per year and several billion was spent on infrastructure alone, not hard to say where they're now. Starship started in 2012, a project doesn't start with testing or any production work, it starts on paper first. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLR1BWV3N2RVgtQzJhYVhJNGRjQXBEQTI1Y1V6Q0tZcV9tOTh4S0xvNGxfQ2Z1VHA0WGZkbF9JYVZkY3l3MG5oTDJsMk13Y1NJZGZLa1dhWmJTWnM4Z3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNWVTbHhzNDh2WWZKdFlLN0FDSHVKaTd3YVVvOW1INURqWXFTUEtKd1lmSDNhc0pwekk3ejJ3Wk56T3JMX01wZXplaFVlR2lEWHBmaUdHZ25DUmdLUFVLVUZ6dGNxbV90R2hhaTFlX1VZWGlhcHNYS0VUWXNCc2tjOXlDSTRkT2w5dm8ya0NjNk1mdEFpQ213ekVTZFNKU1Q3T2hZa1E3empSczJaZkRsRGtVaFd4dE1scV80Y1FfRXI4TVJ4cXVUbUVaNTJqXzAwMzhPaHpPMjBHMDVzQT09 |
What makes you think Elon personally came up with the sniper theory? Could've been a random engineer mentioning it in passing and it became a meme.
Ah, I see, you post on EnoughMuskSpam, that explains your sentiment. That sub has a tendency to invent imaginary reasons to hate Musk. They also do this thing where any success by Spacex has nothing to do with him whatsoever, yet, simultaneously, he's personally responsible for every failure or setback. They're so against giving him any positive credit, it's comical. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLS3h6OGVpbmgyc2dQMkVrc3V2dWQ3ejZrZlNpNl85NFJPOW5XM3FyYkpOMXhrVThsVzYwN2lXNk9JTUN3SGc2N0l1UkRzUThaVjRBN0dyRjU4TVc3Q2Y4M3ZIZV83YjBuaHBLT3R1TXVoNzQ9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUV93NFRHaTNVT0VxVUkwTTJxUHpuTl9YVHdRRGZWMEM1c0pramRlRU00RUhSdThCWmg0TE1RYUZoYkVhSXNmR1lJRkZZX1R6bGxKWlN6Y0hCVHhUcHMxeVloSXV3WVNpRzFUVzhzNWQ5bzZsMGFYMVk0akhJY2pWa0xkOU55NzVvdTc5UE1wQ0ZJcFlrYmRaMUwyOTVBanhaaVVBaEpQNUF4dHhwMkhSTF9qZXhocDFZMk1iZnEyZjcwNFVEOFRt |
Man wont fly for a million years | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMUpTTGQ1TkxNN3Y4dkRwYWFmcWwzcGFxZGtGbzBSWHZvQWl4bmdLemd6Z1RvX25mN2c3V3RvUktGX0tfZ2pLTURaXzdESzViNFU4WHBCamQxUmV6Z0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOWIycjVoWjRiS2p1RUxNVUZxTWZnSW9SZHNtLVc2U25EeHZiSjZMUmtVVUM4R0ZDSmZBTTBkRmtCRGxsTnl4NkQ3UnNCVXF4a09qSkRtRHN5VDhYUHdwUWpSVHZKZERQdEI5U3RfWlRRY3JxWnpndjFJSEx3a2MtQ0ZQR3pSVHl2dUQtdnoxajZpU0Zjd3RQQzMzdjBVLTM3ZnB0Z3M0U1dqMU1Tc2hxSFZ6WkNubTBTVDdZc1JpZFNmYWZaTzBQVTA1MG5PcHN6ZTBMSEphRGZwSk10UT09 |
Pressuring the propellant tanks (not sure if Methane is self-pressurizing). It provides an inert atmosphere to keep propellant tank pressures up. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQkJQQnY3SGVVeWhYUGc0UXhIeUJQTkhnU204cXdvR0lPX3pobG5KTm9ZeUhZdW9wMzZZU0E0Q0ktR3hLY1JPbGs2YUxzY0RMcHE2aXlIWnRtMjc0aHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdTAxWVN1ZlZGZkZvaUJzbEoza0hFSF9VRHF0TTIzMl9STG9aT0VCNENjWXVRM1pGR3JIRzZfZ2YtZDg3WkgzTkdjdFRtaU5FRGgzcUZnX0QxSlJTTGNMMDJ3R0lQQVRKenZReUhORUFSbDB4N05lb0NDakFsVVA1TjNhczhKRUtRYXNERTV4MkpSS3h2YzJCeUt4MXdiUHBSUmp6WG91VWNJQVRIa09rc19vVHQ2VGE1N2ExX2h1MVF2RE1fcm1y |
Why dont you want to carry a big heavy thing up with you? Does it require more force to accelerate upwards? i wonder if that would still be the case if you were Air | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZXZSZVpmdE16UVN6aHVTVXdETC0wT1FtRDNVY0VYTDkyNUgwd05VTVhZWHJ3YmRRWE9CbW1IODZlNzJ0ODczVWhuZHUwTDdBWnZkb0J4S2lFOWhOWlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVGFQc3VUZFRpeVI2YlhZa3dyalU2cVd5dmNXeGlWMUlpQ1Y1Ql9QNDRiWlpVVGhpaWhuenVrdmZTZDVGN1lHSGpFeDJQdWtIdDFPamhDMmoyV2RTUW43TmYwcGs3S2xBM1FyZ1Z4NmhYVWJRbFhPb24ydTB0bWR2ajhWTXludW11NnpKbDNNNV9STldGcGV4a05Tc1FiLWNOdXR4cnJ4dllxYjhTVEdXNHZLeVZSaFBySGNPYThNZ3NWRlk0TDdsZXJmUHFZME5OTnE0Zms0NkZxOWNmZz09 |
Six months away. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLblBybUszN01xSFpHd2RsdEV2SVZ1d3pINlFmb2I3WlRMenlWaVFrNHQtTUgtTDNXODJxMnpvdDBIdWhtc0V1bE5iMjN0NHo0djIzRjVJZUVCazd2VlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQzhDWVN1TF9Bc0RVUWs2UEtqMXlja3g4MEtyaGpqelBhbFcyeHIyT0FHN2NnakNJb1pJX0FGRUUycWRjSHBCY2JKX290aUhaR05VOFhwWktsM2ZuWUdOa1VkalBybVJkV0o0WDQ4TWlvWlVpVy15LUpGM1Y4X3gtbXNNY2xjRlI1ZWVuTXpERURpNDVicm5lOWg4azJnWEhHcDhBUmFNbTlyTlF4bUFBN0hLX2M4V2JOay1nQ29maE9SdnpQU1pxT3FEZ2hZNm56M1ZVM0FJRXlzSHR2dz09 |
Irrelevent comment. Thanks for playing. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUmYtSFBlaUoyTUR0alplLUlqc183ejVPTzRreEN0b2hXcDBxVHFTUmhVRWNMbGtyNVhJVWZxRUZRcVE0SlZMRDAwSE56UzZYa1Z0WG9GUlRfSDhoR2ZQUEk3T3BjNzE1ZDFIdmJ5QXNhZ0E9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLWWJqb2p5N08tWHY0ckxsS1draVFEQ1ZEOWIxSjNVRGlUd09iVXY0WmdBTml4c3NVUk5VMHh4UktjSXhoM0JWWDI3b3B1OEVQRXgxdjFkMzQ4a0RmWVNwLThXclhvVGU3eVl4elUwZ2xrWWtmNE42bzh3ZVVyMFFFSnNxN3pOTkVNQlFUZVpHMlAzRy0wZzFYbktRelJPMDh6SFdSRGRDaXp2akM5Q1ZSZWZ2eXgzMlRqbHB6alU5dmNwU0U4VU0xTHlhblpEaHlKMnVQZU5meE1WclVGQT09 |
What a dumb take.. Do you know why they launch from California? You can't launch into a North -> South polar orbit from Florida or Texas because then the debris field is over land have an issue like China has where rocket parts land in farms and on houses.
There is a reason why the launch site is Vandenberg AFB because that is the best place to launch into a polar orbit for spy satellites. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOVRyLXZNOVVzYkFqTVk2LWNsbVlRYkt3MEw2b2ktSTNaNlRkRE1QU0IyZEZ0dE4ybE00X1FYZGZ6aEVXbm41ZjZBNUF6YVMwcUMzOU11RjF5eFY0WFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTllFNkFpUXhmZklLazVkR29kZFQtTG4yeDYwb25FN3UyekRyRUZkVmcwUDRYY3FKdzBBTE1GYnBPMkxiWERWdm16d2EtMTdGdlVQMEJhWHo0V21aT3IyRnBrYXZEZlJOLTMzWl9PNVpqOEpUQ0NPdnZCbGMyZktiNUNVWXRvXzVYcjFlYkN6NXQtTC1CWjVoU281bGlSX2l4ME9CS1ZGSGhHMXZjRmZsM0NyWm1aUkkxdW9Cazd4blBDNWpHWjFySnJwbWNicW5sdkxzUW5IQVZVN1NzZz09 |
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Suggest alternative and viable companies then instead of spewing hate. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeDFsQnJ6U1I1RnBTM3B4VFVyTWt5WlJnSUtqcWtyVnpxRFh5b0oxU09mTDRseUZZeUN6VXlfOHFPSWt4OW5fX1NpTTRqZ3dtdnFxdnk3a09pS2dEQ0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMlFQXzIxY1BydXpUTm1DdUpFRHJGQXd6d2RoMmt3SERPUkF2VUl0Z296SnFlNFJuX0Q0WnZORW5TdmJZY1NySmNOYVFhbFprWkllQ09ENUoyRVZMdnk5Ynl6RDVvNXBLZnFpZVZXOTZheFRkbURxYlQtUzVHSmpGUFF4Unp5Ukw4VDZpb19sdnluVXhuYWdmb3VqVTNYOXRTSld1SlJfWG9KdUUtTnlDOTlZZjA3cjJGWlhENmN4NnZ0ekQzU015 |
Hope you're doing well irl! | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTnpYZW1NOWZMajdEMEoyUXV6VGZWTkZaalJKbVVYZ1NDTE9sYS1WUTVlRXB2NDl0U0xQaXkzanhxNEotemhyR255OUU3My1xX19rVGhDNFprXzBKUWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLX21mTnZTWWhrbmpTcnlHTHduU0c2OFNUd2hnME9jcGdpX1M0cHR1WTlISlpMRzJ0Vkd2blVnUWUxaFBUZEE5Sk9yWXZxTk14QnBYMmx1RllYVmxWT3pVakZNS3NFOUV5Z3ZKbXgzdGVGOWtqdGZveXRFdWVraGJSU2RtVWpUaGpMRW82OVhXdTRBNW5LVmJvMU5aUmJjdDcxT0d6TXNOVFhRVUt3d0pjRWVkZFdXcE5MSE5jQXFoSXlzMnozbzd0 |
I don't know about TI, but for Intel at least, they regularly set up manufacturing networks that span the globe. Intel has fabs in Oregon, Arizona, Ireland, and Israel primarily currently. After the wafer is run through the fab, it goes through assembly and test which can happen in Malaysia, Vietnam, and Costa Rica, primarily. It is quite normal for a wafer to start out in Ireland or Israel and then head all the way to Malaysia or Vietnam for assembly and test before being shipped to customers. In other words, Intel regularly ships its wafers halfway around the world just to get a completed chip.
For a tangible example, Intel's Foundry Direct Connect states that Israel is in charge of the Intel 7 process node line and Ireland is in charge of the Intel 3 process node line. Products using those nodes start out in the fab in there and then ship to Malaysia or Vietnam for assembly and test (to my knowledge, Costa Rica hasn't been used for assembly and test in a while - though I could be wrong. There are also assembly and test facilities in China, but I don't believe those facilities are in active use... For rather obvious reasons). | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUmdGZWFVZWpYUU84b1dCM1AxMHBZdkNBSkEyVmt2MkRYRGUzWHMxdWhiZUl3WGJFQWdsakk5bUxFbjJHbWFaczJnb05hM19BN1Jva0NPNzltMktHYmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQnFKcDYxZWQ2aC14NHZtaV9NZlNwWWRKOHUxcHc3RDBZZUdrNHhhNVFSWkZXdDdHaTMxNGJ4YTRqbFhqdFhaTXgwaExXaHBYSHI2NlN5a0ZlYmhUZEFvaHJXcHpscEpJVTlCQ3c0aTdzNU1NMFRKN1N4M042c0JhTTJ3MUtiM2lOdmoxQlBoWXhDbjJSblJkUzJ4UlJ6ZWgxWlRfOGFjek1iTzVUVVZEbVp1a09NX0YwSWFhRC1PVnpvOC1takZpRkp5NzJyazhabENWQi1BaW5MdTZaUT09 |
Most of that is incredibly inert. And all of that is an incredibly small fraction of Starship's mass, when compared to fuel and stainless steel.
I'm so sick and tired of all the "think of the ENVIRONMENT" freaks inventing imaginary harms to stop shit from getting done. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdU1CN0Y5aG1CQ3JFQkVXYnN3dkxqTjQ3d3BFYk1iYy14THh5U2JwX1lkMkFIQzNIeDVWSzRDNTJnQkFoVVkxTjZudWxMTUZ3V2JNSWtKY1F6cWFZa3c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUFVEcEdsU211N19HLTBYY09relFLbi1oeUxDTWJoQlUyMjRYdzFaRGNpQmxvVXp2SkhsT21kN0FFeGVQcW1XWDdGOTlQTWpLOENUM1VHMHZxSmFFbkhuTEF2dVRiM3Z3MWtUb1ZqTXQwQU9GcTE2S2JFaE1OU3VnbUNVZ211Y1lmakRWZVRXbXlxc2pHYXlTWjNzMnYwQ3JVb0ZnN0xFb3YtRkVaek11TllXVmExQUZVU09BQ2NKeU5ndlh1SW5w |
That started at the top. What did Space X keep up there? Is that worse than the bottom where the launch usually starts? | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOF83aXJLUDRQMklqV0FNc1VUU2tUNXRsN1E4VEdZelZMcGt5TVJVS3V3NEgtSVZDbDdlQWZHc0thOUljZkpST25IejhuNU5kalB5d1dQa3ZvbTMzSWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLODFXVjJaeXU5R0wxdGpKZklVdmR6bGxQcGdlT00wTUZmeFBjMDhRZmRIcUFfUDJpSTFKYktXbXdNSmdrQWJ0eDB0MTNpcDlEN29UMWxyaUEyQzNYSjdQTUs5QUg3ZjFnVXlGN2dHU1hhbjdjODUzbENma2JKdm1xZVdjSnpfSXZETlNnYVJSTEFFcEFmQUV3V01kMHBNM3Vaa3ZLWTk1a0huVUxlZEU4TTNBMnVrLVY5Z093SXFCbnpIY25ueGhPNjVwUkVoaUpKRHBUdi05d0U5TE1fUT09 |
I doubt spacex keeps plans of past iterations in order to go back on things if needed. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeVI0WlhvQnBGM3lLN3hmUXVJNnNETjFQUFNubjVWUTVJc19iNGNsaTdGSTZjZjcwc29HZHI4N2dFa0d5X05fYlpBQlE0TWRiWHZublI4dnd6YVpmRXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbWZrRmo0anEtdnhQaWlTMjByOHZCS0wyOVNYYjlvMzdOYWpVUjY1azZXdTJmdkEtV0VzLVZLUkUyTXFsVDN4bm9uQk0yZHBsWUZ4YjUxTmMyZXVBdVRQSmk0Y0plOUhoMkR2dUZCclItMzVmWTVHZ2s1SzMyRUJMYjhLVi0wQ292WHI4RzdMOUxSY2VYd0hTbFl4c3pZN3lXaWxkYXQ1MEE2Mld6UW5hUF9MZ01CenN2VGp6dFVWMUFiS2FOTXo3UGJjTU5OYVBfN0lnZmRUdVlyelZWZz09 |
Just because it looks cool doesn't mean it's useful.
Who cares that they can catch the boosters with towers when the thing those boosters are boosting isn't functional? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLajNkeWEySGJJd01pZWZHaldZN3hGSEFLMGJkNWU1Sl9OeUhmSFpHR2xBY1ItS2xwTHNYOE5MU3U2SlM2dUxQNmh0SVV5ZkRQMjNjeDZ1dnh5Q0h4Q0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeGhMdnVkV0Jzc3BZZ3lUbms3MzRMMDJGeHVLVkxKUTVxZkxiSGhGRlRhZzZUUm9TcUdzbGdSbjEyMTA3bXBSMGkzTHU4RnRWMEFtN3I2QzlBc25vbml6ZXNUOWF4dF9oT0dpVHBEV2djN0VHLWJScFV0bFlhdTZMSmZHdVJSS1BDZExxa2NKN3FuQjlvZlFFNkE2eU5pQlJkVFFKYV9jV1lwMG5fVXhEWW14RzRDOTF3Zy1neVltaDBPRHJZSVE3cUlRVW82UGFCZENYWVA3YXNjMndOZz09 |
Thinking NG can deliver on the kind of mass to orbit they advertise is a wild thing to believe. It most likely a lot closer to F9 than you think | r/blueorigin | comment | r/BlueOrigin | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdGdaQ0s2QzZYYU9QMzlySk9yd0xXY0VvRlR3bGpLN3I4eTRESm92ckhHc05xcnNEUUh1WnlGcEdyMEt3OGNGTUFvYWpxeGZaZGFvUVllZm81NVJ6OWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLU0tfbGhKV2s0SHQ3TEZsejhWR2NsMzhJRVJ3SVEybVpuckRjRFVLU2FFNDNxOWNCTkRYY0FxdXlRZFBEM1dPemtRbVNOWmtxcHBRYlNEUXV6S3dkUTR6d0gwNTZvV2FzMk5tSHlIWG94c0JQNFJOLVhIZXlZNlRaYzI5TGNfQ0tCcFZyNGc5cW10cW4xYUZjZ0s2MUx3MTdUcW5xMHZZbXc2ZkR5WVV2ZEtUM1NBdjBManctanBuNlVsNllCVXVG |
In the lower stage, they use pre burner exhaust. In starship they use nitrogen? | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLblVxcE1mNVJSTldHdFNjLVJNV3lVTVRFT215dUd5UlA2ZlhaR1owNUV4UUlZb19tazhLSTc5cVJXU092VnhlZUt2WDNBSVJ1MXYwaThmU0VUZG9nSVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdUlCbUM5bHZHN3VjTWZLN2d4SGNBTi1LWVFsLXI2TUhXRUNfbVg3OVd4Mm16dDF3QVlpM1praEZKdkp1b2dTUUE5X2Z0ZjA0M2JKZzhMTWJTWXlkSVJSSGNmLWdORkJ0M1hiQTZsaUxoaUhHNWYtLUNwV0VscFRLMDdveXNISENqcXYzR0ZzMEZnS0twLXJvb0NpWkQ2R0RHX0VQYVJNODVZQ0twZEtLQXhCb2hjQ2k2QzBqa0J6NzdlM0lXTHA3 |
Engine spin up. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRXhoUlZ2MHBmbkhGdjUzOVhGQTJRYWNNc0sxeWVKdjkxUW9ZSG5hWTdrcjBnZ014VzBVUGo5WEdScVBDTHprN09zU0JXWmthUlNVbDlyU1BrMkJuSFE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOVhMeVpQaHpCMFozSTZkTkRfOUdVUFRnamlfUDJTNlhDX2paYTZBb0Y1NnFtVzBSQmdUWFFMNXB2Sm9HdWNkUDdHOWpjdUhRNThBdWNKbTJ2NWl4MjNndE9fVG9mb3dmbmNZRUhyUzIwekdUaUFYSkgwU3laMHMwTnd4Um16RW8wRnJfcnZnVXJaTEROS2tCd0tEMnZ6ZURCMENnMzlDTlMwcTJhT3dCY0xEbXlodlRqeW81YzVRT2RIOUs1TUho |
Tesla wasn't initially messy- it just lacked money. Elon brought money, but also terrible working conditions and a factory that is way less efficient than anything in Detroit. You want to see what genius Elon brings to Tesla? Just look at the Cyber Truck. That's his baby. Elon is not an engineer. He is a hype man who hired some of the best PR people in the business to hype his personal image to help the company- he fired them in 2020 and look at how public perception of him has changed since then. Thing was, he was always like this to a certain degree (drug abuse has obviously not helped things), he just had a team of highly paid professionals managing him, cleaning up his messes, crafting narratives for him and pushing his 'self-made genius' narrative, which is just that, a story. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLN0plaFQ2OXY4UVN5VFlfZHVnTWNSUElYd18wOGFIOHliVDJRVjBpVmlnX1pvT3I0YWZid1ZFdVJMUUdkZ2tIZEJwSnlVNFRqUC1QNTMxNWFsbGlnd0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbjc4VVA3QVpBOEZvQ2NuQnhvVVR0U2kwN3lEbkVOaXI0c1ExWVJXV2V5MjFMdm1kUlJUYkFsUGRidWs0Z3UyWmVicmZQX2JjR3FoYk1HeXlOdG9nOW1IQWhsZ2pPQWVNVzY5aXl0Q0xORkhMLTd5RXBuWTBTRE5IVzlBdTRpaEJvNENHMlNuWUdMb0VYUFl1V1lzalRJek9RYVJuaGJ4aTZwU2FPcE5zdFRiVTlvUzFHWWlUR21fOGtTaFgybjlt |
> So nothing new since the Elon tweet
The "There is no commonality between the COPVs used on Starship and SpaceX’s Falcon rockets." bit is critical new information. Standdown of the entire Falcon fleet would be a big impact. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVkJ5WF80TXlzcVVpZ2tCOGNUTjhDVDRUMUdhVlZUcFdDTkhDRnR2NktnY1UyZWNmNHJucDJvTUhTejNFU0NZVW1aVXFoQnNwSjAydjdIQVNRd1JEeURvcDFsRktVUkpwbVY3UU9ITFdxYmc9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOV9QSHdtWWQ3VzlBaTFYVGdSd0ZQSGlNRjFQd0Q2UW41THdMUDhRQzJSUlVMUk5PNUk2TkltUmlValZBT3UyVzlrZXFVcjhaUlptN2c4UVZua1JSendKUG1oWHNFQldIZGx6dDF6Z0dKWS1OTU1SaXZuVS1jaWZpbm9xYkM4b3VSek5NM1dETzR3YVpNQjNmUWZTMlVmYWR1OGhsenlmU3ZuZUFOT3hfbDQ0VkFyQkVTVmVFWkFadGpPWE96Ukt2 |
I doubt the damage is real bad. It wasnt a "proper" explosion, just a really big fire. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZmdQT3FvdGJIak0wVEF1MGtHWFhDOVJMbG1sdEpjVElndktkRDIwVW5XckJySnVFZWNlOTl0MmNHXzhwVE5DUU82OUhXYTdvaG9mclZwc24tS0pSVGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVEtrQ0JwZVJGQ0ducW5RUTJWUWNLNmg0Sm1XYi1PUElOU2FTWS1XaG9MYUFQV0FZcWxJVHNzWjZvRzlXbU1jRkRsdXF0MXdmMTNPdGxJYWtMazBrdDNadnVnNUgwQkZMU3JLSUhsWFJ1X1ByY0JCZXN1bF9lVVNRRDhqYnZPMjdOZE9KM1h5VlJDT3N1V0tSbW9DUmlZcXZuYlRZb0pFemJ6OC1lVWthWERoOVFuSWpxMGM2bGdzbXExOHppcHRW |
> You HAVE to test rigorously
SpaceX tests by launching. The tests are failing, so they know it's not working, and to try something else.
> If I want to test a system for issues, having it blown up at the end of the test makes whatever data I've gathered absolutely useless.
This is simply false. Having data leading up to and relevant to failure modes is extremely useful. Having real world data to compare against your sims, even if not for all phases of flight, lets you refine the sims to make them better. Data on where operational snags occurred lets operations move more smoothly next time.
> Having it blown up and starting with fresh hardware every time is almost as far as you can possibly get from proper testing methodology
I have no idea what you mean. When you run code and your testcase fails, running the exact same code, with absolutely no changes, would be stupid. When a test fails, it means something *needs* to change. Ergo if you are getting value out of your testing, you are constantly changing the thing you are testing. You may be referring to "validation", which is the process of ensuring the thing you've built and have working is actually meeting the goal or requirements levied on it. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbnpndGJVVllFLS1ZWjFXYjhOb2l5cDB0N2hrcnhuSmJxdUtCd0czLXd3NllRSDFKemdncW81TzR2VXB0V29WNmVCcWpWU1g1UjJKbXh4RmNHdEV5UlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdlRZZFQ0TF9laUpDMV82NWRPVnE0aFExdmFLR0NjaG8xUmNNOUlreEc1bVVieGxYWkkyei1Vbl9FMzRQWWRkUWxvcUVLSmlwLUdnV3pyVW9pdUd3YkptNjNVNVgtNEdGV2w1WkFhb2JpUDRxQ2tkeGVCWDZucHU0b0NiYlNvdFBTdGlkUTNZOVQ0eTNidkk4clI2UHZXbDl0UXR1T2s3dXZKdWM1MVBVaUpvMTdaN1R5X0dzWGtWbklpR01USVlyaXFZdXktQVJZM2o3YkRycndlYlVPUT09 |
Looks great, I was always curious as to what so.ething like this would turn out. Could be cool to see a side by side or overlay of this and the original. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNkZVSTB3Z1JnRHdvYWx2YVg0UVJLUnprWGp5MlduNmtKd2h0TldNSkxQTnBEWWlEdmhuUEZLY0dIX1dEYUpPaWxlUU80WlEteFU1RWFwNkVLeHo1SkdXeDdMZjNWUl93WjFubUhzLXRGdm89 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLX1BuVGlXaHFYMm1BT2xfRjRPN0Q0T25xZmJIekhEQldLanNIaUFFLTIyMXVUYTIzeFZPazJzZjJSSXhPcEJQNGhDemJYWTduSTA2UEpUeVpGNVRIeXRueXZNTEhWcGNIS2VISDFqRDlYblYtelFGUjFveGd5dDNkNGtiUEZ3Q1ZxbUxEZEFSY2hkLVZPWWt1ZjRiNk9wbktmbW9LS1J3b0g2cEFhaXE1b1VhRzcxa2dwcUpOS3VPTy1pVzRULUtVa0ZZWkV3YnAyUE5EN1F2a25fblRTdz09 |
Do you mean more processing power (with higher latency) and less vision capabilities (no 360 degree vision)?
Regarding stereo vision.
Stereo vision can be emulated with parallax-based depth estimation and other cues.
Citing "Advisory report Fitness to drive in driving license group 2 in case of vision in only one eye"
> The relevance of the limitations observed in the visual acuity of one-eyed drivers in practice
seems limited. It turns out that it is quite possible to increase a smaller field of view by
compensating eye movements.8 In addition, it is unlikely that the small difference in depth
perception will result in practical limitations for driver
Low-light vision and dynamic range of modern cameras are not that far off of the human vision in the lighting conditions on the road where the full dark adaptation of the eye is not possible. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNnpjRzRVTlN1aE56cnZQanptYTdabkRkdlo4YURBS29seXY0Rk93dEhkVmgxU3JESDRKUFhGcnBWZmNybG5NTGZrQTdTekdQbEtCYUJYc0lSSGlZaVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQW5wamR5eDJBMWdLc1BGbU5fc1UzOWx0ZDRQQkNMM1ltbVJoVnkxRzd6X19KcVJsdllnNTQ5YXpQYVdrYXQzNWo1VXg0OTNlUjZqLUNXdjR4MGtHZW5iSm5TYlpfVXV0RXhwUmpoRHhrWXVhM3dOZjNPa0hEZ3VIM3k1T0VQUnJNSjdnTlVZSEExb2lTTWNfdUZlb1RKNDd6ZnlOM0RzckdnY1BaX3VKVTVpTHBoeWFodEN1RG5QRnBabXJTNUNpc2lEdGR0U1lIZV9LNDBzZ1F3VkF1Zz09 |
Doesn't it also serve to start the engines, and for fire suppression ? Anyway, Musk mentioned a long time ago that he wasn't comfortable with COPVs, and this event explains why. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMlF0VzdZRWdZa2VESXFIWlhJa3JHa1BHYnN5a1BycjA5aGFfbXFZdjR4TWcwQXJSbGVveDQ1aURNRm5sUWYzUHRRTlNadDRzaEt0cjIyNmptNm4tWWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLOHAxVU5nU2x1YWx3SnMydUpoaVBpTFJqR0V6TDBZaFUxZXhZamdzbnNCQzJvSlA2WnhmcnpIdjZKSmFmalg4bzd0eGNidU9nTWgxcXRKSDBzZGtpc21WaEpoMl9QUlZ5VGtmMDVxT21VeGJsNXY4LUxUTWVlUEp4eDBFNk9LSlJUZ3hLSGZNS2VNeTRkMkdMbkxFZnFFYkk4QjVRYjFvdDZkVXEzN1p5VFFCbmNsX0ZFQWVkUUQ1RXdnY3hJNS1E |
Well, it's very much proven for Falcon 9. That booster takes like 95% of all mass to orbit or some insane number. They've had 9 launches in June alone. ULA, their biggest competitor, has launched 9 times since 2022.
It's reasonable to assume that this same success will follow for Starship if they get it working. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLamc1Vm1hNHdxS0c2MnAzNEQzNVQ5TkNtLUVWUkY0N2VwbFRXekg4cE12ZXVlWDRSR3EyUG50Y01IdXFqWWVORmhaTUN3U0tJaHpEZHI5MjYxaFZodVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNU84SGpPdEZYekZFdFl6b1NaMzVKUG9WV0JWVUpibFNiWXF0aGVsVDJSVEVTT1hPWi1oTzhiUU1Lc3oya0p2UWF0a24yTzZXNTA2ZUMzcGR2bVhuNlVlTEV3dGI4RVQ5a0J4M204Mi10TE9NZG5UUUpfdFRaclFzenhjSEQ0TmFSMzlac05nTVplZlMtYjVScndfTGxqRUtxSWNDRFF0MVhJcGxTNjI2NmhtMWNpdGVQWmt1akFlME1lTTRzZjNSUVowTHh1UUdLMkoybXJwNXNSSVRhZz09 |
\> I'm so sick and tired of all the "think of the ENVIRONMENT" freaks inventing imaginary harms to stop shit from getting done.
Nice ad hominem, buddy. And I'm not sure where you got the impression that I want to "stop shit from getting done". I guess these days it's not possible to ask uncomfortable questions without being labeled as an extremist. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSFF3Q2FpNmJabVhjX0xLcnpsME9Hc3AtSjBqR3BZS0lpQ2ZaZS1zb3RXNGxmMWtjelFEN2lyZHNXYlJWMUgwUVlFTV9tU2g0aXYzLWRfRy1LVjFWblE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdFY1bFpJYWVicmhTaXROeDZGWjdFdzF3VWtwSnFFbXAwdDhXbVNzcXlTenVuUEh2VmIwQlgtZzIxNGpRYy1CZGstMzR3cTdaUzJFVFVwZG1OYmh6WUpsLVU3TFRDVDk1NzVPd0VjTlBjQXNuWVJyc084T295bV9vTFRMRi05SzZ3aFVNLUtwc1J0VGNvcmk2VFJwNmZ0amF0YloxUU4tTWFtQXFtZG91RXVYeHhEUDA0bk1Icy14UUhQdXpHRy0x |
For sure the only losses would be radiative, but a charged particle moving only emits radiation if one curves its trajectory. When it is on its own, it has no reason to radiate. So it still needs to cross the path of other charged particles that bend its way. Does that make sense? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSE1wWnpST19QLUVWbXZlTWN4WEo5Y1BaMDl5MWRMdS1Gdk5pUmpUSnMxRk56LWlmM1hoQ3FpcDFiSG9TY2FLRUdENHBWbDZQb1lXa3pCSXZsXzhfX2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT2g2ZW55eDJWcFo5aVExbWRzdGFzZkJKLUVqc0d4amZzeDFWSzQ0dEdPM2d5S2NiYVQwX2l2a3J0MU9ZeHRhUGpsTzN1U1ZzbEZXQWduYlgxMFdvclRRUmZlMXpYeFY0NHRJMXRvY0FtUF9nOFZka2NsY0ptZDNRdXNGYXBPcjRaWVNSdENhMXVOMzlWT284UkllVGh2eWtsUVVZdl9yUHk4UDc4d0Jzb1dhZlhoQ0xXTlpkZ2xBd3l6NXhXUWo5ek50X2poamd6eXRVOTlpcFVwUjV4Zz09 |
The alternative to storing high pressure gas is to create high pressure gas when needed. This is usually done by controlled combustion of solids or liquids. The main issue is that you do not easily get a totally inert gas like nitrogen, but you get generally CO2, H2O and some partial combustion gases like CO or even unburnt fuel or oxidizer. Anyway, most of these gases can turn to liquids or solids in the presence or liquid oxygen, which can lead to stuck valves. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLc2ozWlE1akYxZjV0N0tMWUJwckx3WnYwYmRKLWswTnB4SnFFV2lHN1hvMFduX2FHaFlVQ0Q5SEw4SFZSLTlfN2FFYWNnQ1RBQXdrUUtGSGJVeDRjVUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZllRZEZiaGpEQWtraTN5R3JaTmlPQUF5dS11MTBubDRZRllyc2V0MkthQXBEQnpIWnM3SkRXSjVNczdPNi1NUzRmTGFSa2o5TDdqcWtxZE84VWo3WEdlS0ZiQnRjX0lCbFUyTWpUelpSWTlWMlBqbU03MjRnYXVfelBGTC1oVF9YU2FTblprVnlmQlpXMnNzSFBQS0g5NzlFcTBlam1pZV9XQVhaYTBIdHRVOXlhQVB2OFJ0em5sdVRfX2JNZXN5 |
Compare to NASA SLS which is the only other rocket currently that can lift comparable payloads it looks incredibly affordable.
Estimated cost per launch for SLS are between $2-$4 billion and it can get 95 metric tons to LEO
Starship in expendable configuration should be able to get 200 metric tons to LEO
So Starship costs half a million per ton vs SLS which costs $21 million per ton.
Even without any reusability starship is already about 40x cheaper than SLS. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYzBLZXZVTDlxWDVlSzhGb2hsQnpLbXIyVEc3S3NURnhHZmxFelMwSlkxZFpIbGNXd0wwVkg1UTV3V3Atd0tod1hOWTRXZG5LbG5VSktNZ2RuVHlDNWhCejF1NEZQQ3pUTDFMdkU3endoQzg9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdzh3ZWYtNGt6SFNjcjlIQTE2enZEa0RmaF81azdGajRabXdwYWd1QkxiMkZCWFZIMU1WV0Q2S0dZTFdKS2ZBS3h0NzI2eHJiSkFfd25FeWo1MmRUTzREWGxiVGFRT1NGWGp0XzFDV0FZZnFzb0lFNEZrbkVkSHVhbHV0bkN6QjE4U0RVNDZrTDA2ZXZuTFVaNG85V2lCc01vaWpnY3pjaFdpTk5RdVVoWGtzV0lLeDktNV8xNS03OUdNamZLVzZfRGhaR25jQlZRYjVpR0Y1QnpDWC10UT09 |
Amazing that they let dump trucks drive past with such narrow margins and at such a speed. | r/spacexstarship | comment | r/SpaceXStarship | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSE1veWs1c01MX21xN3dGOFV1YTAzVFpZc3cyR1ZUSV9ha2gzTXhhdW9PODZTQ3hqajFEMVFfUzAxTXVaeVR4bG03VjA4YmtUbmhQZU56RElrYURaZEE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLV29PRVY0bHpqVkotb3FaTVA1VHdsUG1ZS1M4QnJDbXlWVk9qcDM3a3c3aUVXOTdJMVNqWUYtMFRYbm9OcENhQzVjdkM0SXlrelFlMVdfOW9kamwzbDZNcWtvWTJ2T1hkSlNmc29vSnlqdDFyby1IOUY2djRIR25wYW45em5kNkZEb2xQODV1c21waVB2NHVyS0wtUzJNaGFDV21tWkttTkJfWTNwdTByT3JhOVlCbUFnM1JyZmNCbUhMUUlGakNk |
And thankfully that isn't the case | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZ3R4Y3ZWdEVOMzFpbTZyYTBsVmE3OUFNMDl2cm9MT2s5N0Q5ZEhsS05pR0dQSGowcW1hWGduZHEtTDB3YVN5Rlprc0dUWkl5RmY4UHVqSEFueGZob1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLN3hOTTlQa1gtVGJjeFY1WTkzYWhkSFJhNjlRNzV4amQwN3NEd0hXU1lJUHhsVDJTNGgzNXNiOW42NHR5RDdaV3ZJa0kxaFYxQmZ2T3NKVnA1bWo1YTRWQi1zeGlicXItNFBHSjBzM2M4ZWRLT1N4ZVpvMEh2WWJfbm5QLWxLdmZWdUVCcTctcnVqSVJVZExscGNtTUVydG5yeDBucVFFdXBaMHMyQjNTSHRIN0FxMjNYMHNSUEVHYUp4NDIzS01hcl8zcy0wX3NFUHJKYVRKaG53VkVOQT09 |
Physicist here. The kilogram of steel is heavier. I'm not joking.
The kilogram is a measure of mass, whereas "heavy" is a adjective describing the net force in a gravitational field, aka weight as measured by a scale or balance.
The steel and the feathers have the same mass, but the feathers displace more air, resulting in roughly 1.5% less weight (not mass! weight as measured on a scale).
If this seems wrong to you, I ask: which is heavier, 100 kg of steel or 100 kg of air? If "heavy" is referring to the amount of strength it takes to lift, well the air weighs literally nothing. 100 kg of helium would have negative weight. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQXdzLVhDczZPU3dQQWVQZ2hMM0VUWVEwam93RkFtcmdaTGF0bURsdE91a01SWDhKZS1GeWoyLThISDV0eUhXRmcya1VJNDNNOUhjbTM1bmdfbE44UGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcDhnYWk1NVEyZ1p2dzZmSkZfMmFJNkI3dVdEeHNVVmp5a2tBbXVBUkhXQzFhQWFvRUpaaGkxbUpfT21PcFBpcFRxYWExM0pqUHhaeGxST3M3RlJSYjdGa3pNUTYzamZFRmpmdl91NllCS0s5RkVIRmZneGViWDdEZWFZcjd6OHpieEJfQ1l5cnNmSUd5SzBYYlZTWmJQY3o1M0VDa3RhOEllS1ozdExhck5Rd3dzaWJkTE1lRERQUzNxc0pGdV9ZMUxhMnJLWC0xa2hnZ3F4eVRqeDFsdz09 |
I would believe the business operation and decisions have more to do with that rather than the software development process.
Those fixes and features you want can probably be easily done. Whether it makes it into the backlog then the focus of the developing team, is not a decision often made by developers nor the software development process. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaGl1eHJMVl9vUHUySFprUkxxSTFUUjlvcDA4SmVfU2w2ai1wOVFHYzhRTXgzTWFVaWJRSk9ubTFqZHk1SFlVNkQ2OW1Ra2ZXM3FlUmU1YXRzX3BrS3V2MC12ZTRFNm9SeDRtaWRBY2ZfNkk9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcEE1OEdwMHFCR05Yb1FaRFl5MHl0dVBjRUVFYTFBQ1lrSE5BU1RuVFhfQV93LV92VmR4ZVVBMzU2TE52akpsd2wySXBHYUdmMF9IZ1ltLTd5aTR3cUs5Qm9SMWl5bHhIeEdMYW1JZGhsaS1KTzBMY0Zkc2hUWm9SUUdfQlE0WFNoTFgwRkFqU1gzb19JaTYxT2NYZ2pJUEhsRnZTZXhiTHBYdkI3N2VRMnk4d19WMzBJZnE2ZC12ajl2TDVaOU05blZZME5oVHlTNnZNY0U4THNSbTRRZz09 |
Almost every time I see someone touting some unknown imaginary "environmental harms", it's this shit all over again. By now, I just assume it to be the case. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdE4tN1hOUTR4Ny0ybmxONjh3UFZpRS02Mm5VVFYtUEIzekdGOHZLemh4YlYxNUotZVJFeHlaUnFfS055RmZqSzJfS0tQd1lHelUtOVhzM2tnUUdtWnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRDFkT3RfNkd3Yk8zeXg4U3RJVEhBZW9pOFptbWtRQjlNWXBqSEZjRlFNQnVIQWdrWUEwTVZ0R0tZSl93NkJiWktZVlRBT21yNHZQWGQwUFJiTDc0dnNwU1h2UTFNMTBzbkxfM1NDc3BRcGlGMHpPT2FtZ2gwdVpfaWx1dW5aT1o2cFBEb2F5M2RRcVNGY2RSQWFCLVRPckZrOVBROU5NYlBRa2NYd2VocEo5cjFaVFRoZGtZY0tPZ1drcThGa3BF |
The first launch failed because takeoff damaged the vehicle significantly, causing leaks that destroyed critical components.
The second launch went through stage separation smoothly. The boostback burn failed because filters were blocked - I don't see a relation to the engine count.
> they for some reason are having difficulty at what appears to be a way simpler problem.
They have very tight mass margins. Everything needs to be as light as possible to end up with a useful payload capability. At the same time, the upper stage needs a lot of complexity that you don't have with an expendable rocket. It needs a heat shield, it needs aerodynamic surfaces, it needs header tanks, it needs to control its attitude for an extended time in space, it needs to relight engines for a landing burn, and all that shouldn't get damaged too much because the vehicle is expected to fly again. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTU9lQVdVNlpXRE52aUY2S2QtaHRMZ015THBtQ0hpNGFxRl9hVGkxV2YwV0s2TENtcFNiWW8yc3VXbExWaklYaDMwUC1EdlFBWWE5cWxkc2lvdDFXMUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbHhfRDlHQ1dCaU9zRFJVSzd2RmpWZ3pxbF9MQ2pEM0VHczFDNl9xanMxbERLR1JTNWhtb2xlek9fNHI3eHY4T28taVZNX3pFQ2ptZGdqcHZMYjJaRmxROWFueVZjalVQVWxtRllTaDRKX2pldlJhaTItVlBIT2dwdW1lSkpsWHVTMVF2aE5sdlh5YVBSVWpGT1FuLUptdW0td0VQZ1pQenkyalpOMW1uajljeXJTUVNEWTIzQkdkRXpHSWtUSDlMdkt2OHVheTFmU195UVRLZGNOR1BDdz09 |
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I don't think the phrase ever meant breaking things in production. It was, at best, a playful pun. You move fast and break (disrupt) industries. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaU1nM2hCZlNrb3lhMWNfbGZCa1VvVjI1OXJmbGlucC1xZ29mRlRLdjlsLWtSTHVXMHFYNm9tTUdRZHVDZU9hcGVoRS1tMGdlWjVnNDhMT0hlMm55MGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbnNNTDEzTVN2OHFGclI4Q3U4Zm5HOVpDU0xXck9ncFd6QkNRRG1BWm1FUEV0TWhOdHI4M0QyOW9YX0d1eFhDMWpITTBvenhIWXVjQ2E5Unp6UW90eFZORTZtaDQzQ2lwOVY2SzFSRU9DbWtXUHBwb2NqbGx6Rm9jRXBzQ3NKRGdWVjNJVGJxT0RMSnZSZUxUOFJTNEwzcXU1bnljLWROVFVDNnVGWm50Qlk0WHBCMFVvQThWdG9TLVNTUTMzeHdaR3kyUk85RFRrblJDWlNKVDhpMWZhQT09 |
Please tell me when NASA anything like a rocket more powerful than Saturn V using 33 FFSC Methalox engines and caught it with its launch tower and then reused it? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRkNHQlN0WE5aZ3JxNTl5U3pJX3pHcHJ3bS1Sb3YzRHJIMTdDWUpGRDdUU0xob1hiT3BSdC1ENHdwSnVNMkVOcGNYWWkzWXVGbnFwSXdEbXoybk9IRGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaTM2dHBMbnltdVpfWkJlYUg5NWRJcnpKbHFaMWVRdnk5cnBrcDhfMzQxNk4yVjVKb1F2bWtwbTdKY1VDTERudTVtY3o4UGtYdlNfMUd0VE5XVXBobkdTZ3ZvRFluMUdjdkI1WklHbGhPR0hJMU5lSFBKcUFQM1JDY0RzdU5BbTJHYnBCZ3RLb210OWI4eUhLbXhWZ2hiY24zNm1HQkxPS2pMeGZrdWQzSlJNdEszTV9XaS11QUZNV01Na0VmaGQyUmJOMjVodUh2UW95ejVHTVdVNE5Ldz09 |
There are still some wicked smart people at SpaceX. But they no longer dominate in hiring the best upcoming talent. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbFBLcUhsNDhTNnFydWFDRlNRak8wWUVaT2N1ejkweGtQWmVQUjlaTTBQVFFjNDZWa3lYZUVVUV92aFdDOFppelRZZUU2X2llUnNoOEdqSjJMb0lmZVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUjVIdzk4RXJ4UlhWbjlBRHJfOUhTc2FCWGtvN1RMN1RUTElUeXB5QWt3S3NxZ05rN2NJSk82c0hlTXR2WmNsNWdCTHdDdURSOUU0dEJkay1fQkk5UV80aHpReFRCR2p2ZHdYNjR4T2x0ZmsxX0VpSFR1YXVOZUtKQndtZDFDT0tqTDJZdnhhYzJ3c3YxakRoRXZUdVNyN0ZRRUU2YVA1V3NpWVRJZEdXR2dWT2NtUTVTZjV5Q0JVRHBxSFF1MXBsdVlNcmw0WWZYc1JtSzFpVGdIMko5dz09 |
It's not proven yet, but people were saying the same thing with Falcon 9. The thing with Starship is that it's so ambitious that even meeting a fraction of its intended goals would still be massive. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLb1VJSDBsdDVzZWVrVzk5X0lzZkMtRl9qZEhHakZienpCT3dtTTBKNGlCbHlJdE9EVEpsMDRIbll5cnJNWW84ZkRKYzZQU2hGaGcyeHhsVmp4c2N4NGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYXpYV1B1UWF0emZUVE1LNWV4LWFKTzBNV3hTbXV0c1dVSzZVRjYtRkxscDA4UnFJQnZBY1dLbU5XZXBDREdxRzF2MFo0M0MzNW5jVXd2Qkd6MWN6N3VQaEUtNFRnZW9JQktNc1FNVVgwNG00bmVvQm9KUko0aks2UkFTeGpMTG5LaWFoTnhZTjBnb0F4am9DN0ZtaUViNHBVcGhTV1duY0tjS2REYzE1cjV0bS1ZV241RkNGX0RlUEJRemYxSE1pQlFMUUVXdDlUdlp2TEZiM0doSWFUUT09 |
Software operates by very different operational constraints. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbmlQLVRJMWpvdmRtZzVfVGNySXk2aGR0WDdySXVjYjhUZU5CcEdJUlJiVEpLSVBiTzlTelpNVnJacGMtSDhSQ2VqUXBmRzV0MmhuZWdwNjRHQ1U1dmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLRGNNWWpPcHk2SlZEUlU5bnJOd3FaUGRXR0xmbXNKSmYwZHdhdXA4bDIzbV9YMW5NRzJpMGdFWHlueFlkZFhzajJHUTR1aEVVaVhyX0N2VVM2Nml0TE9VcVZZeUpOMG8ySlBVUEE3RkFJdDY5STM1VjNsRmRVSEEyRHg3cmFHc1BFdjEtcUx6eGhnZ2VQTlBVb3MtdE42dURrSDQzeV9CRGFiNFgtWlB5Vy1PcWRiZDdTMXZPdEw2VTN3aHI5Zk9FZURCMnQxVDBkV1c3b0JCamk3b19iZz09 |
Sad state of affairs. You're simultaneously dismissing my points as "unknown, imaginary" and directly assuming the worst about my motivations. Puh, tough to have civilized discourse under these conditions. Have a nice day. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLb2lsSk9BWVVMd1Jsb1h3d0QwWVVVUXZFRFIzVmhsSmxyY2xuNXdTMmJzOWVMd0ZNV0s3RWd4TzdlNnpYNjNOU09KVWxtRUh1YnhtaWI0MkU2VVkyVWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLUjV2VG10Zk1haG8tR2hFQlVGMVZoVTJUYlB5REljdTd0Ni14Vk5KR2hKbFRhdHFUZG8tRUJ6ay04QXFoOE9DR05hWU5xU05YRDF2ZHFyaUpQS0NiY2F5T2tTa0JjN0piRU9QUGp6cXI0MjRIMTFjdlByaUtVV0VTbTFfNEc4SnR3UTRqRU1kQ1VHZ1BRN01UMm9vMUtkZ1BmQzE4S0lhQVNIQUtHSkFKbVlWdVp6V2tzUDF5bV9wRjkydk1nZ0dV |
Making SpaceX public is a very dumb idea, and SpaceX isn't about profit it's about Mars colonization. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLcnFuRFA4RWxpeUZwWXB6dV9KQXRpWFpMeUdjZHZIbFNMT2RSRDhyeW8ycUpvVnpTWXNtaWh5RTFBTmZuQ2t1ZmVqWFZyRHJlWjBOeWR6WGk3OXk1TVE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaDg5X0pMcjktQmpQSWljRFZ1T0xrdGtPWUdTWmE2U3V3Tk1fY0UtWm1UY1A5Wm9NZzRESVhmUFBBa2V6Y1VrQkoyeE9WUGo2MjNlLTh4ZFhmcHlCNlozcnJkazNGdFpTMGpXQzlnZEVxeHlBN2dkYXU1ZnFDcEg3U0F2WC0xWndLVXNqdUFUZU1zQUh2b3phdndyaGJ0R1JRUndKa2s3eEVoZWhHWVhQZ3htQWRDN1NSVWFwQl9reF94N1ZHY1JDSXlyNE03LS1NUTI3NGwxS0dabmxQZz09 |
good points. That's when they first mentioned starship point to point so that makes things even worse for SpaceX as that makes an 11 year development cycle. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMW1ZUlplYUx6VzhpLVNPUFQwN3FLaGtWUFBJWlBaSHpxbjNwQUVXZVBZMElWRkpzR2FwUkFBbVJqNnRJZi1WenN6RmRqR2lOREtKeUQzNGhDWDhtcHc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLNVJzdUZTT1UwbFNhS2didzRuSGt1T2QwYXd3R2FYUk5DYS10WnZ2N0ZaMHVQeHd6djM1Mjc1NE1ZRUhacS1kb09fdWQyVWZWd1dMbDhxTHNUcnY3OHMzcG5iWGhoOTZ4bGNITnEzelhHZFdsdTdCT05WazVldnpFYVJrNUt0RTNLSGd1X3hPV05NSmMtekEteHZ2TTFpRVVDZFdJSlNYR0JXeVY5NWVXVHkwUTlHdGpLMnFpRWZNWDZhVjJuMV9IakY5VnhUcEs3WFYzQTNwYTczbzhDdz09 |
Right... This is reality not KSP | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYk1DRzNuUWhrSk1TWmJQRlotMDBPT18tcUxxVHhneUV1eW9kczRRVnN4a3F1TUhkMDEwTU9IaUlkWERqRUViUVJqTVBPa0pqcFB2Q1BfcTRYdDg2QkE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQlgzdGR1dU1qOXVENDEyeFRiV1VqZVRYNGdVM2hST1czamFzTktLRWNRT2NTaGRiekZBVXdKdmNBWEtwVG5URkdiNERXLXlLZjBEdE9BTElnZlpEcF9qT3N0Y1RNV3F5ODRpVXNkSEU3eElYWDk4WUVHWF9rM0ZJNFhReENYdDg5UGdGVUM2bi00alkzaXdqWEZVS2FsekRjSE5lY0E3T19NMjkycEZMU2VTTFgxUFhuQVRvZnp3SjFabXR4ZDFSbVUyQVJ6Um5wRHVTeUlNMEZOZlZpZz09 |
I mean but that was all worth it for the Cyber Truck, right? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLc2x6MG5VY2RQNkdkTjJ0WGhQSzF4Q2NnUWpELXZHMGVuSjczLUQyZGZob0pld3NjSG5kTzJDS2dONlhUX1ltdHZQdDctVEVhcmVxVm9YQnJ5TnhlVlE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLV1hnRXRNMDZWYmp4MElKSmctWk02QzdQRlBYWWl3enNrOUo4US1yOWZrdFMtODJDY0xDT08wOHhwV3o0Z3NvRU9IT1RDdEZuR2pXTjNQVl9FMmV3N1ljTzdySHJSeFVLc1l0QUhUZXdLVXpsYjEtWm5IY0Y3eXVtZUkxS0VZMkJFa2JBZ2R0TWRneVZ6TW9mbVNRX3d3MGl5MjVMNElRUzlKSXBMVEFHV0MwcjRLQTVnaUJPUjBDUUVVUFd5Zjc1UUEzazBvVVlTajA5UVJ4enhDaFVGQT09 |
Yes, and I used to believe that.
It is cheaper for faster iteration.
But I think it is fundamentally to heavy and iteration can't help you with that.
I think any manned Mars mission would need a cycler and a sparate lander. I don't think it can be done with one ship. There is so much mass required for the human travel, its too much to try to land all that. And all that weight requires more fuel, more weight. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZUIwY1kzcWZBMjJaWmMtZXZGZmVmU0ZfYkYyMG9nR0NwZklNWGpvNWRacm16dFhwc0J2LUduWGF1VG9IdlVDakdTdl83T3RNX0QzbXdEbmlDTHdrUG91NkxnVGFURHEzeWhYTzd4UkNWakU9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLalNTeXVlY3RPNi0zbzVfSkxpU0h6YVFGZEY4Q2FFdVd6blVQcW1EcWlXbFhWWmMwQ1ZkYzBhdGxsR0dRSnNJZ1RVY0FzMFZ2cTNNbUpGU3NNRmFuTTE3b2VIZUF3NVJSelF6U2JfUXlYOWJ4Qm9UdVQ5RUVBR1JDQ3ZWN2VYdWpqZnBUUzE0S2ZGQm9OOGZfNGdKMkVuZXNqU2ZOTFFqeVZSWFNsWkJCR29JUlFuNU1kbjJKUnd1VC1lZnhIeVRWdXhHQy0xTDN6RUR4X3JuRjVDQ3FNZz09 |
There was an employee (well former employee) that posted concerns about Starbase, including mishandling of COPVs. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQmZ5T09lSi1uRXBKd3hrTERyQW5fUWI5SnNQUm9MdGFuYXp0X2U4czBzTVcwZW1SaVJ0QmE1U2pQX1ZKQXM1ckRnbGhWLW1OcHpOcGh6Mm4zc3hnV2c9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLbUwxQ005SjZkWnFFZUo3Y05nd08wc1JxbkVmb3dBSmV6UWJsRTJqSFI1Q29MQWNzU1VkTE5PWERGT0JXbmVTX1NDX3dQZXlTWHdVVmZvWkhUODRZVXNnYXdEdDhkMnZEZG9UYTlkSWZyb0VTWE5KMDh6d3U3SjBaanBDeDdwVUZLYjlvQnZkM213eGxiYnhObll4aDAwa29oem5DdGwxdDdIYjZEME56R3R6enUyVjhLSURmakdPZ0FRam5qcDB5UGhRLTBZMWJqNnM0QXMtbFg0bVNhUT09 |
I was assuming OC was referring to SpaceX in particular. Not sure how you got non-SpaceX - I assume due to the "spaceflight community" reference and the generic nature of the comment. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVEZNNkE2R2VnN3hBQ3RNekpEb0ZrVHdvXzB3U2ZUM0dFZVNYZng0VnAwLUxwWWpjaFY2VGdaUElhQzJhNXczemlXV3NMaFVDYjVCRGdvTm5Tc2xYYXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYS0wV2h4eDhCeVg3a1BFeWxjUXNVNi1SbGQtTWYtY0oycXUzY3MtQzhzWURxVUFHblBlZTBNOThKWnZOX1ZXNDRCMFhfcGZQdlFENDI2RVgxUFBIcVZLWDR2Z2ZBVFFLWlJ1QlBNY29UVzFJRWZhVGl6OXlNMUowcUhHNnJuX2xnZmRVdkFmZzhhb2lUWVFaZHdrc0xNVGFnTzdWb2s1UXlIWTlFXzlLVzctMTd4LXo4VG1IaVJKMzJmWDhLNmlk |
I always assumed it was meant for something like a startup where you can afford to move fast and break things in the beginning because you don't have a real product yet and you need to quickly get something thrown together that you can sell. And it seems like a few morons thought this philosophy should keep applying once you have a real company with a real product that customers are relying on. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLLTM4T0VzeXNKZVB1dkhsTWhYU0VfcE5NZmt3ZjVUYzRaVy1TOGpxcXQ2emMyWDE3bjZxRnU4N25lNDlXdHdwQ3pDYXQzU1ZGbG9UYnh3Ty1WTW12TGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVUswQzRFS2lfd1JGZWZ5eWx3STQ4S25ORnlFWnNucDVtVVRoNk5BYkNOYzlBVFVJbHpTODZKa0pXbE5tQ3JPX2VwRGg1ckhyN3dIcXhCQUZWRjh0WTBHZmZMbU5kam5hbWdjRVlkTExRODYwUk82RlZPX3FrTW9ZVWtyY0ZtRDZzNXVoVG9rWHF5RUlxRUJsaERZQlY3NHUtVjAzR2xiOXZvdWc4eThKUTE0c1NUUjhKMTg4anh1dV9uYlRDX2xFLVM3a2tlMEl3dXhfd3c5NXU2U2dOUT09 |
catagory (sic)? are you sure this is a real site? | r/nasa | comment | r/nasa | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTlk3MnJRRmxsdG1kQVEweDJyS3JwLVozRmY1TlhFMkJQdGtsd1ZSOVhna0l1ck1zMUZrS1Zmdk5mZGNhU0Z5QkRFUUxQM2ZSSzlmTnRBZjlOanpHNnc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVEpNcmUxV2dBcldyUXVFZXdRckJqSmY5NkxTLWdZQTV3NXlxMXVYYTlNRTZ2OElYWFZDQV9uVEZ2MnN6VE8xWTdJWXhEWUpjeW5MMEpWRXBkRlprUkRvUWRIVXB1RnZocW5xQWdrd0w1QnM0SVNDWnlZNWFwc3J1V0U2NDluZHdQNGp5M1FYMzFkMUxVR0pZREk5d2RUc3lXN0h3d2Y5eHhmMzZTcEVxMk9tN2s4Zmh1Y2p3VzQ4OGpZN29DVkNvUWpuWk9NeTA3YUFpODU4SklZai1MZz09 |
I think you're right. To me the whole starship concept is as stupid and inneficient as the falcon was brilliant and efficient. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMkNxanRvX192Yzk1dHR6U252eXBxNW9CUzdncUs4WjFTZl9iZ21EdVliZXA1UDVIRHFWREQ0NDR0ZUJ1VzdsQktxNEIzV0dad2dBNTBGNjBkX1VWcmc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVnJvMHZsUmkzbHdyT1phWmtsQVpKMHkzX0RTbjhLMGQ1dk1iS19jX2ZfR09sekhoT0dpTkNLcVVPWE9iQkFQNGNidUx2REwtV3dRX3pKV1N4dmNtanhXQm1YVEl3cGVLN2p6VTY4TFVVdWJoVGNoLXZHUGJYbmE0WDVWejRyTExMWUY5Qk9vRUNWdlZDMi1kRU9ITHh2b2h2S3loc3duMUUtNVlWQjcwUnJFNFhfZXk2LWgyWnN0VVdLYy1NY3I3RFA1LXR2aC0zU25xVFVuT005VzdGUT09 |
I believe so yes. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMmdOeTZiZ2hucmNzVlBqTVlJcFlFNUJvWmtseXE1WVFYcHdOX1pTdFhRbXRiTlVtTjR4LXFrZWpMSUpCc2V0MV9HZncwUldnSWZEZzhHc1NGRmJjZ0E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVGIwSDVvUDRYbkw4aXN3S0tjaThqdUNLNTdINTByS2dKRzdITF9td0tuNGFNcEZ6ZmJEVG1KS3Q1T25XWkdwZlVUYVlNTUpZeTZqY2tLM0hiY1RTZ1BZRzd6UmtwSno2VmFOTFB2ZlpiOGc2dVpPZWNEZnNGcjRGOGxQZGpJWWRSTl9aaXRDWDZYQ3ZBNlhETkV5NW9Kc2pnSzZuRzJEY0wySFdlQjkzc2tFVEhaaEFSVkpMR0h3b19EdWY5YzFl |
And it works specifically for web applications where you can seamlessly and consistently ensure the users are using the latest version of your software (the web page) every time. Different software types with different update cadences don't work nearly as well. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTWNEemRSRUJVNjVOb0pfVnNQdG5xdzM2eUl6N240Umd2dmJZMHJZa2tsMzU1aWo5NV9taVF0NElBV1R1RXlseUJzd2V6QmVaVlVBOF9jeGszNDhJOXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLSDloamJRamNLWGE5WnpsMUlyWHQ2S1RscHpEZFliWDBvN29ZNXpjVUtlc1hld2hpMHE4TGlaNU1LamZpWEtrc3NMODRXajZpdzBmdC1hT1ZTVzVMMzFuSWU5dUNMU1hVMFlPSThuaFQ5Mmg2WlY1WW9CbFJjWVJMVVZTb1BaRC1rZmZEUGlGZWhsempaOVBfNlFTRlpFZ2Z5dGI3ZGdrYUVsQlJyaVBmUUlQY2tLUzltckNRX0lrMDFrSklRSGM2U25ZWTFrOFh1MmlDZTV5MGM5MnRZdz09 |
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is the telescope the super duper pooper scooper? (apologies to The Macroscope by piers anthony) would seem to fit you. | r/nasa | comment | r/nasa | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLT3c5a1pKaHBKN1NEQnEyUUhjZWJPQ05hTE5LU1EwODBpMUxuWG1VWjladTViLTlzaXdnbWFIQnZoc2pySmpELXMyTUIyb01hT1l5RXNvcDFZX2ZqVWc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaFBfeWtsOXFtRjZ1UjI1UG90aUgyVUVTenQ2RG1MdXJzSmRGQkk1RkcwUXBFNDdRNDhNOEdFS0FDaXU2aW05d2FTRXJFUERIRGcxN1NYeUFrMkd2R1F1QXZja3dVcW9LODlfaG9HdE5Tb2tueVI4LUktR1lqaUVVRHJHWjhDUUhYWkQ5QnBxNjJxWWRqSDVNc0V1a2xTVVEyTkEtekdfUWc4aFNWeW0zN09BeTMtYjRWbkVDa3dkdXdmTkpOSVNkTW8xYy02TWUzUktGcGtvbXlURTBuUT09 |
Maybe to heat propellant for autogenous pressurization via a heat exchanger of dome sort but they're not going to feed exhaust back into the tank. As a matter of fact in the raptors engine cycle feeds the exhaust from the preburners back into the main combustion chamber eventually. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLR0IwYjNEcWhoUERkOFNfcXZqMDdYSjhWaXNuNmpuZGU2SGFkQkhLU0dtMmotbzAyMFpXM0FoY2VFbEsxTlhoNEJBMmVSWjlyQ2ZzLTZTb2R6VkZSTUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYXE5RHdUMWsxZnVWb1RMdG9uRlE5cGFUekZkSDlLTTRXWGM4cWd0bVIyc2RLUHV1SDUzV095NW5tSm1yTnd3NTJWYXA4aHV5N0NBUjhNSElvMnhGeWk0LW00a3c3Q3p5LVRseno5WDR6MWE2UlpHYnh2RmNoMTd5UkVBcWFhVUpaYjBBeFN6cjd6OTNucXo4VUYzRDlLM2VRYWtBcExjZVJmbU5RRjRWYVN1NUxnTjNrWXRSWXduZ2ZtYVUyTXdw |
Based on SpaceX's track record you would expect one COPV failure every ~250 flights on average, but ULA's rockets have only flown 165 times (not counting Delta II because it wasn't designed by ULA, but even then, ULA only operated 30 D2 flights). So it's hardly surprising that they haven't had any failures. Their COPVs may be more reliable, but there's insufficient data to make that conclusion. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZkVvY2Y4X0Vxcm1jbVctb25ZR2h6Z2cwSmJxTWNmRjd1bzVFSG9MZXBLTFl5cTg1MjV4TmNhYVFibTNTbExWb3E2ajNWWlEtMmR1STdkTWRiR2w5Y1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLTmJfOFJhblRCUU9ZMDJjSmh3ZGNuQ3doUElJZ2htei1JUGx6QUlwRzdQMmNtNVV2RVlQYTlNLU1NRGJnWmFXd1ZDaVBfdVNTU1JuaW94YUthaU1xbmFhd1ZDS09WOUdZWW9yN2dEbm5CWDF1YUpsQ0F0b2JndUR1LXAyMDllZGtpZXg2WnJXUDhZaVNXS0pMWFhPSlRmU2cyQkdJWG0tYlo2blhBQXNHeldUSWlBWTA4bHAzcERGRFo1dWJuOWNraWd4R3lLZFVGVXBTSUVOUENEWFNJQT09 |
It is heavier than a carbon fiber rocket. Stainless steel was chosen for rapid assembly and testing. But that extra weight needs more fuel, which needs a bigger booster, which is heavyer. The weight penalty for extra fuel larger in a ss rocket compared to a carbon fiber one.
And that extra weight needs better engines.
We are at a point where they try to save weight and Ship v2 shows it is more fragile. And the stronger engines put even more stress on the ship/ booster, requiring more materials and weight.
Fundamentally it is a open question if first stage recovery is possible. There is a reason why F9 stopped trying to recover the first stage. It would have had no payload left. That was the problem with ship v1. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLaURwUFllQmJST0RsSEpSaEszaVAxalU2MF9JZlBvMEx2eXd6RnRodnJIZS1PRUNCcU9JX0s5dURxeUFzTVBURXN2bWZ4TDJyVEliLUY4S2h1NWoxUl9pcjVzTVlRcWlwT200cDBuVm12NGc9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLQjY1dnFEWHZHOXhQT01IMFlwSjZvZ3RlU191V2dTanBHeG03UlRzQWVBMmNzQnNzMk5TV0cxOEdvVGs1YjFacjI5ZFhDd25YSC1LVE9HNnQtcUdjeTc5Yy1FYUJoWTVoNFQwMVVYRXBiY2RXVkUySDhyRGptcWt1UmVRbGF5RGg1ZnJTWHhTTWFDMERLb2VOV2wwdXZDNWdCV3ZSY1l2RFl1Z2NJYUxacGhIcWRmS3dBTkJzM2FUWWxuX3pUNnRxdXlHOHRPRWpjTUxFU3JrWU9EdVRuZz09 |
No because achieving full reusability is the priority, when they can catch (and reuse) Ships they can start sending Starlinks. Currently Starship isn't capable of either of these things, but they could've gotten an orbital Starlink flight with Block 1 if that was the priority. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLY0p2aEJvM1M2MGZfNGxSMlNxWjFzLTVZOW5LQVFVaDZScWVIV2ZmdkNIbHFOZWFieHZjZzd6TEhUS0J4YWlPdjVDNzUxalJIcE01ZVpQOENQUjNnTGc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLdVYxV2I0eEcxdUpOS1ZyT0dlZW1XSm1VYnQ1MzhzUDZnV2JvM0Y4RzhMQlY0WjZwUlVMSUI0SHVFeWRiUmNuemV0ZnpUTW1fQlNid2JfMERiTWNsTVBwWUR6azBFOFBvd0hFTlE3b0lsbFdnajNSY0pwQVpsd01yQWtmZUtaZnM5UF8zREMzLVJwRGVGc2pqRVd3MVZFcGp3WUpVT2ZmQnFZOEdKS0FhaGd3VDNQam1reWlaelJpNkhXM2w5Nm00XzNGUi1rM0xMTkJfRmlkTGJQaFI1QT09 |
I thought COPVs had a leak-before-burst behaviour? | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLZmFIOHR4b0hqVUZaQzNoT0s0VzZGbTBXMVdxaWFzdkRldlZPUTA2S01FMDBmOXdGdl9xTGNJMFNaZXUwblBfbC1pcExra3J1cnRodjk0Ykw2REZTcUE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLS1JKMHJ6LVB5dFRUaWJ6WWhmTlRia0JZQ192QkV5SzBjNTJETGxIRVBheTJnSWc4WlVpR0t2Y0tZSDg0QzNnZW50alRWRmtXNlJMc0xtcWtFUmhJZmJHZUo0a2dfTE4xUEE2RmFDMjdoM25PUm1vOFFJU0VvWFRNaFhhSC1naGZGeHFoNGxCWGVTUnFKVlpFcm1jZkF2S3R3eTdEUzJxcWZvLXZYWG4xZU5QQXlnekJoQnlGN29kaEhaZVVIZ2ZYMkR3SWkzb2Q5X1BOdUdxSkh1OURVUT09 |
They are unknown and imaginary. And "think of the environment" is barely a step up from "think of the children" - in that anyone saying it is either trying to manipulate you, or being manipulated. | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLX0N6NUw1VkpXTlVmelZnaFdPejFXV3RNUTJBei11TEd2ZFotdFZKV01qcERzRW13aTEtZzloRkd4cnJGQXZIOE5OenlJRkNJcjh3RXJmVEF2aXVFQ1E9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLYkI0ay0zZVFsdkxxOUhHZjd3RlN5Um1WUWx6T3VkNkFJMGlISHNUeGpaNTFESWVJTFZkUUptNVcxNktKSHE4WHBRby14MWh5RGRxRFhnck05cjBCN2VNZ0JtaHFabkpRWXd5aEFzZUU4MlFHSHgtMWRfQUdkVWtWcHR6dEFreVAyV1NqRU1BblVBSkNMcVhwNk80N29IVGRTMlYxMmt2QjFUai1nT3ZEWDNPVWtHTkxoZUxUZGhVcFNpS3dXQVVi |
\>most first movers make bank then fall over flat as others enter the space en masse
Yeah but the problem is that it's been so long since SpaceX began launching reusable vehicles that the time other companies had to start catching up early is long gone. None of them thought it would work or be effective. Take ULA for example. They had a monopoly on government contracts and DoD launches and refused to believe SpaceX could compete, yet just a few day ago we see that SpaceX have demolished the old ULA launch site to make way for Starship. ULA are a joke now, that's why they're trying to sell. As well as that, SpaceX has now launched/caught and reused two different orbital class boosters and no one else has done it once.
\>First mover just means lots of profits when you are the only game in town but it rarely translates to longterm viability
That's exactly why they're developing Starship; to provide long-term viability. The only other company aiming to build a fully reusable launch vehicle is Stoke with their Nova rocket. It will launch \~7,000kg to orbit. Starship will do over *200,000kg.* It's contracted to land humans on the moon for Artemis and is planned to launch people to Mars. As long as SpaceX still receives any form of profit we will see Starship launching.
\>More reusable rocket providers is a *very* bad sign for spacex long term if you use history as your guide
It's not since all the new providers are offering higher prices or lower payload sizes. Starship, once it's fully operational, will be super cheap and also launch the largest payloads ever. Until we see direct competition against Starship it's safe to assume that SpaceX will lead the industry. | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLMGNDZkZGQXJBa0RISUw4c2ZrQ21zMVdWV2R3N2lWN0NySTFTcF9randSaG9XaGtSUnZPWTMtSWRRLWxTYkJHYXl2cjIwZ3p1bHptcDVsMDJFVDJfREE9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLN2RZRnFublI0OV80bUJOYzczNnZUM25kRGNJb2duVlFUMjYxWkkyTDExWTNSWDZiNnNaT2huRXAtU2laX3g4WUdldzB0OG5SREJtV0d5Wko1RFdUWl9KVW5QaGNUcllWQnhrNUVQdzctcXhiMXRrY2hqOWlnRkNCdDlaTU1ocEF1VzduR3FDY0xRLVh2c05rVUpFQjVuVHVtSF9jRmFZN3pfSnc4NW8zXzBKYk1aQy1HOERMalI0dzdlOHptX0NiX241Y1FVX0R4TkR1bVJ2WDR5TGt2UT09 |
We. All your links prove that. revenue is not profit. Estimates are estimates. SpaceX is a private company and does not publish its financials.
The only thing we know is that SpaceX is raising money every year. Mabye they would be cash flow possitive if they stopped starship and or Starlink expansion, who knows? | r/spacex | comment | r/spacex | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLVmhmcFEwNjlMX0ZOeWlYUGZhbjNZVVFZbHlibVl5M0w2YUZoNkhWaXJOd0lGa2VwUkJ1cngyVGNmLW4tV0lUMTdHVE9QT2ZFWFZmRnJDX1B1bENpUFVQX0JsMFVqMTlvNGNjeEY4ZnVCNTQ9 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLblIweGZfTUFtY2hGbXdfeXVfTnc1WUQwWFhiM2NudFdLcDJlUWhiUDd3NGNkY1FxLWs1NEpMU1FZaF96WGxYdVVTZ19oQ1VpdWMtX1lZUTJCMjE5Q1hQUk1hbUNlaGJjdWd3OW5DWWZsTjQ3WUNlci1RcUxZb09nQUpSd1dzRG5aLVRfcnV6YlRPWUNBMzI1amhlUkFab21VUUJkNmhVdi0wZ2tsSjgtZEkzYjVJMTdTVTA1WFdlU1N6dVBCRXMzbHlJalBYWXZ0U0MtNzh3VW5Cc2tkQT09 |
But how can either of them take all the credit then? | r/space | comment | r/space | 2025-06-20 | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLeTU1VE45QTR6NTBEdUMxM3Z1OFFnMFRfQlhaQ0htX2xyNnF0YTE2VkFnYmtGOFJsaVFsUEE2OFFfYUJJNkx1c3BvT3RwQ0JHemtXdzJFUUlOWEdUWXc9PQ== | Z0FBQUFBQm9WUzJLR1N1RFVFYVAzNEZKbTEwQ2l1ZVplV0hJcWFaLWo3bXZCel9aUk8tMWs1bFpEc1dBeVVkYmZBc21LbDI1SlozeE1vRXJDbDB6X1hyOFFKdDRxdkl3SXJ5SHdyUVJsaDBqT0lwRnZjaFI3TTFzOV9haG5oOUxtcks4U2ZpMjRmaGNfb0poZFVVb2gwcHByTHVRRXdDbF96enUyTUhqT2hnbmc1UFVYTUR2eU92bTV0U3kxZGtCOE04N0pPeXZiVVYwemtNeHJ0VUQ5NF9QZERaNFVlNXJEQT09 |
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