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Well, this was my first attempt, what do you mean by the finite field? Like what would I change?
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Not sure what the finite field is
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it's the Z7
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Ahhh
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02/01/2022 04:31:33
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So then I first multiply everything by 7? But that wouldnt make sense 🤔
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no, yeah, try to make the multiplication table for the Z7 first
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if you multiply everything by 7, it's like multiplying everything by 0
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by 1
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02/01/2022 04:33:11
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Z7 is the integers mod 7
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$7\equiv0(mod 7)$
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hmmm
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I still dont get it :/
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I know what mod 7 does
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But I dont know how to apply it in that matrix
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it's the remainder after the division
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oh, i read that as i don't know
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ok, so, can you make the multiplication table for Z7?
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02/01/2022 04:43:33
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Not really
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Ahhhhh
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Do I need to just use the mod 7 on every single number there perhaps? 🤔
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maybe that'll work, and instead of dividing, you multiply it by its multiplicative inverse
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also, the multiplication table for Z7 is just like a normal multiplication table, but from 1 to 6 because after that I'll come back because of the mod 7
and the result is also mod 7
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But how will I know whetherr thats correct and whether I will get the correct answers for that?
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well, put the x1, x2, and x3 back into there and see if the result is the same
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oh... Yeah true, mb
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also, it shouldn't have a number outside of Z7
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Yes, but Is -1 to -6 also in that Z7 zone?
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02/01/2022 04:54:06
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prrobably not right?
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you can add 7 to it and I'll be in it
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like $-1\equiv6 (mod 7)$
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ahh okay
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Wait
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02/01/2022 05:02:19
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I got a point numberr
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and that shouldnt be in the zone
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yup, only integers
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did you divide?
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02/01/2022 05:03:42
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Yes, I needed to divide
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instead of dividing you need to find a number y such that\\
$x*y=1\ \text{(mod 7)}$
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also, that's not how you read the x1, x2, or x3, you need to solve it to where each collum only have one number that's not 0 and all the others are 0
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aahhh
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okay
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I got it
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02/01/2022 05:09:30
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I got the last part
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02/01/2022 05:09:50
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But I didnt understand how to fix the point number thing
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02/01/2022 05:10:01
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Here you can see my process
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that's why it's easier if we have the multiplication table, so make something like this, and fill it in
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okay
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02/01/2022 05:11:41
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mod 7 of course
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yup, that's right
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so, to find which number you have to multiply in order to get 1
you just start at that number and go right or down until you get to 1
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im so confused rn
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so, like for 4, you can multiply it by 2 and get 1
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ah, yeah
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I think I got it
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02/01/2022 05:29:15
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whoops, I meant to write x3 as "1"
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But its still wrong it seems
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Because 6\*1+3\*2+3\*1 equals 15, which would be correct if I use mod 7 on it, since it needs to be 1
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BUT
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02/01/2022 05:31:32
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2\*1+5\*2+1*1=13 mod 7 is NOT 3
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and also
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1\*1+2\*2+1\*1=6 mod 7 also isnt 1
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So only the first row would be right
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yeah, that's not the one that i got
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lemme see your thing
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so, i see a mistake in step 4
3*3 isn't 1
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02/01/2022 05:38:00
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oh
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..
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rip
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Arya
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02/01/2022 05:38:07
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Thanks
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02/01/2022 05:38:16
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Didnt sleep much
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02/01/2022 05:49:31
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Did I make another mistake again?
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02/01/2022 05:57:43
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i think so, step 5 part 2
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02/01/2022 05:58:13
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the II-III•6
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02/01/2022 06:06:09
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YES
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02/01/2022 06:06:13
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I finally got it right
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02/01/2022 06:06:15
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Thanks man
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02/01/2022 06:12:40
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woow, nice
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Then to my next task, how would I solve "Give the generator polynomials and the corresponding generator matrices and control polynomials of all 6-digit cyclic codes with 3 control digits over Z5."
I tried searching on google and youtube, and I did indeed find stuff that relates to that, but 1. not on my main language, so its pretty hard to understand, and 2. they dont explain it very well
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02/01/2022 06:14:00
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ok, i also need to google what some of the stuff there means
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02/01/2022 06:14:42
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idk, i tried to find stuff, but they literally would tell me about someting entirely else
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02/01/2022 06:15:05
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*or they just didnt explain it very well*
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02/01/2022 06:39:46
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have you seen this video?
https://youtu.be/1tRJrcfES5I
i watched it and i think i got it, I'm not sure though
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02/01/2022 06:42:43
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do you have a way to verify the answer?
because I'm not sure if i got it
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3cb2f7639f2549b1a75e0907763ac032
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Shuri2060
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02/01/2022 07:17:05
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To verify plug it back in?
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02/01/2022 07:19:16
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it's that thing now
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Shuri2060
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02/01/2022 07:20:12
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oh sry
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9bf6da8a75f2418a9ec232ab0d559240
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02/01/2022 08:25:08
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9bf6da8a75f2418a9ec232ab0d559240
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02/01/2022 08:25:11
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@Ansh_
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02/01/2022 08:25:29
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The answer isn't anything like that, nor have I learnt derivatives
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9bf6da8a75f2418a9ec232ab0d559240
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02/01/2022 08:25:35
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Apparently it's 5.49
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9bf6da8a75f2418a9ec232ab0d559240
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02/01/2022 08:25:44
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And therefore h is like 14.51 or something
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9bf6da8a75f2418a9ec232ab0d559240
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02/01/2022 08:25:49
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I'll go check what its actually
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