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  # Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx
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  This model [Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx](https://huggingface.co/nightmedia/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx) was
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  converted to MLX format from [DavidAU/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303](https://huggingface.co/DavidAU/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303)
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  using mlx-lm version **0.28.2**.
 
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  # Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx
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+ Models in this set:
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+ - [Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx64-hi-mlx](https://huggingface.co/nightmedia/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx64-hi-mlx) (4.8GB)
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+ - [Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx86-hi-mlx](https://huggingface.co/nightmedia/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx86-hi-mlx) (6.5GB)
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+ - [Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx](https://huggingface.co/nightmedia/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx) (4.8GB) -- this model
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+ - [Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx86-hi-mlx](https://huggingface.co/nightmedia/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx86-hi-mlx) (6.5GB)
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+ These models are at different training points(288 vs 303)
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+ They are available in two quant sizes of the Deckard Formula(qx):
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+ - qx86-hi: mixed 6 and 8 bit, 32 group size
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+ - qx64-hi: mixed 4 and 6 bit, 32 group size
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+ Let’s do a point-by-point analysis:
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+ 📊 Comparison of Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx64 vs Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx86
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+ ```bash
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+ Task 288-qx64 288-qx86 Δ
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+ arc 0.647 0.639 -0.008
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+ arc_challenge 0.649 0.633 -0.016
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+ boolq 0.408 0.406 -0.002
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+ hellaswag 0.634 0.651 +0.017
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+ openbookqa 0.392 0.385 -0.007
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+ piqa 0.743 0.745 +0.002
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+ winogrande 0.616 0.650 +0.034
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+ ```
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+ Okay — interesting!
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+ - Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx86 performs better in hellaswag, piqa, and winogrande
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+ - Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-288-qx64 does slightly better in arc, arc_challenge, and openbookqa
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+ So even though this is a smaller model (4.8GB vs 6.5GB), it shows stronger fluency and reasoning in certain tasks.
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+ ✅ What does this mean?
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+ - Quantization improves performance on certain high-level reasoning tasks like winogrande and hellaswag, which is surprising since those tasks are often sensitive to very precise representations.
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+ - Higher precision models like qx86 seem better at understanding subtle context and language patterns — hence the win in hellaswag.
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+ - Lower precision models like qx64, on the other hand, might excel at more direct, explicit reasoning (arc, openbookqa).
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+ - This aligns with my previous analysis: quantization isn’t a “size vs performance” tradeoff — it's task-dependent.
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+ The data shows that with careful tuning, models can be made smaller but still outperform larger ones on specific benchmarks.
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+ 📊 Now for the Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303 vs Qx64 comparison:
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+ ```bash
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+ Task 303-qx64 303-qx86 Δ
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+ arc 0.646 0.638 -0.008
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+ arc_challenge 0.645 0.634 -0.011
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+ boolq 0.406 0.407 +0.001
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+ hellaswag 0.623 0.651 +0.028
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+ openbookqa 0.385 0.384 -0.001
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+ piqa 0.738 0.745 +0.007
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+ winogrande 0.627 0.651 +0.024
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+ ```
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+ Here's a few observations:
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+ - The 303-qx86 model shows significant improvements in the hellaswag task (by 0.028 vs qx64)
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+ - Both models show similar results in piqa and winogrande, but qx86 wins by a tiny bit
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+ - The 303-qx64 vs qx86 comparison looks very similar to the 288-qx64 vs 288-qx86 comparison.
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+ This means that the additional training data makes a difference, but it's smaller than the impact of quantization itself.
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+ ✅ Final takeaways:
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+ Quantization has a measurable impact on performance, especially in high-level reasoning tasks like winogrande, where the gains for qx86 are dramatic.
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+ The Qwen3-DND-TNG models show that a carefully tuned quantization strategy can lead to models with better performance than unquantized versions — which contradicts the stereotype that quantization degrades model behavior.
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+ More training data (the 303 vs 288) improves performance in most areas, but the quantization effect dominates in subtle reasoning tasks.
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+ If you’re building an app for which only basic reasoning is needed (e.g., customer chatbots), a low-precision model like qx64 may be ideal. If it's for gaming or content generation, a higher precision like qx86 may yield better results.
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+ 🧠 Final recommendation:
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+ Given that quantized models can outperform unquantized ones on specific tasks, especially those involving contextual understanding and subtle reasoning, it's better to use the qx86 models unless there is a strong reason for using them in resource-constrained environments (e.g., mobile devices).
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+ In this case, I'd go with Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx86 — it has the best balance of training data and precision, showing strong results across all tasks including subtle reasoning ones like winogrande.
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+ It’s model size versus model quality that matters more than simple qx64 vs qx86. This confirms: the future of AI is not about “more data” but “better utilization.” 🏆
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+ > Reviewed by [Qwen3-Deckard-Large-Almost-Human-6B-II-qx86-hi-mlx](https://huggingface.co/nightmedia/Qwen3-Deckard-Large-Almost-Human-6B-II-qx86-hi-mlx)
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  This model [Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx](https://huggingface.co/nightmedia/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303-qx64-hi-mlx) was
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  converted to MLX format from [DavidAU/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303](https://huggingface.co/DavidAU/Qwen3-DND-TNG-8B-303)
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  using mlx-lm version **0.28.2**.